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Posted by Andy Brice
Jun 10, 2025 at 08:09 PM
>but I pirate (unpopular opinion here, and understandably so)
Sufficiently unpopular that I won’t be taking the time to make a substantive reply.
Posted by Skywatcher
Jun 11, 2025 at 08:31 AM
Andy Brice wrote:
Speaking of Apple nuking everything from orbit, I give you macOS 26:
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>https://www.apple.com/os/
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>Its not clear to me yet what effect this is going to have on existing
>macOS apps.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “Apple nuking everything from orbit”. If you’re referring to the 26 denomination, they simply changed the way they named the OS ,now by their year of release instead of the usual incremental numbers from their first release.
The rest is just cosmetic change to the look ( more transparency ) .
Posted by Skywatcher
Jun 11, 2025 at 08:32 AM
Lucine wrote:
Wait what, so mac apps don’t work on older versions of macOS or iOS?
>This is total news to me, so
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No, they just changed the way they named their releases ( now by Year of release )
Posted by Andy Brice
Jun 11, 2025 at 09:28 AM
>I’m not sure what you mean by Apple nuking everything from
>orbit
I am referring to the fact that Mac apps have to be continually updated to work with the latest macOS OS/processor.
I develop apps for Windows and Mac.
If you take a Windows release of my software from 20 years ago, there is a good chance it will run on the latest Windows OS.
If you take a Mac release of my software from 20 years ago, there is no chance it will run on the latest Mac OS. In fact a release from 5 years ago might not run on the latest Mac OS.
I understand macOS 26 is not going to support Intel chips. So you won’t be able to update that expensive Intel Mac you bought in 2020. It looks like Intel apps will continue to run under Rosetta translation, for now:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-to-phase-out-rosetta-2-starting-with-macos-28-as-intel-era-ends.2458631/
As a vendor:
On the plus side:
-Mac users are pretty much forced to upgrade their apps regularly if they want to stay on the latest version of macOS.
-apps that aren’t being actively maintained disappear as competitors quite quickly.
On the minus side:
-It is a grind to keep on jumping through the hoops created by Apple’s changes.
Posted by Skywatcher
Jun 11, 2025 at 11:28 AM
Andy Brice wrote:
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>I understand macOS 26 is not going to support Intel chips. So you won’t
>be able to update that expensive Intel Mac you bought in 2020. It looks
>like Intel apps will continue to run under Rosetta translation, for now:
>https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-to-phase-out-rosetta-2-starting-with-macos-28-as-intel-era-ends.2458631/
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Starting macOS 28 , not OS26. So, in the year 2028. It’s written in the title of the link you posted.
Also, support for Intel is not going to be dropped entirely in os28 ( year 2028 ) , as written in the link you posted :
“ Beyond this timeframe, we will keep a subset of Rosetta functionality aimed at supporting older unmaintained gaming titles, that rely on Intel-based frameworks.“
But yes, support for Intel processors will likely to be entirely dropped in 4 or 5 years from now. For anyone old enough to remember, the same thing happened when Apple transitioned from Motorola/IBM PowerPc processors to Intel, decades ago. In a similar way Rosetta 1 provided emulation for software written for PowerPc processors, and was dropped a few years later to only support Intel processors ( it lasted less than the actual Rosetta 2 , which will be providing full Intel support for at least 6 years, then probably a much limited support for a few more years beyond that ) .