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Posted by Leib Moscovitz
Jun 10, 2025 at 07:16 AM
Instapaper (for online storage), or Obsidian w/ the Obsidian web clipper, which is quite good.
Daly de Gagne wrote:
By the way, what about Pocket’s planned demise? I have thousands of
>items which will need to be transferred.
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>I am wondering what program to use as a Pocket replacement. Any
>suggestions? FWIW I am looking at Readwise and Readise’s Reader.
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>Are there better options,
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>Thanks.
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>Daly
Posted by Andy Brice
Jun 10, 2025 at 01:02 PM
Speaking of Apple nuking everything from orbit, I give you macOS 26:
Its not clear to me yet what effect this is going to have on existing macOS apps.
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Posted by Amontillado
Jun 10, 2025 at 02:05 PM
MacOS 26? I guess my version 12 is pretty far in Apple’s rear view mirror.
It’s the newest version I can run. I’m starting to think about moving my life out of certain key Mac apps into things I can run under Linux. My machines are 10 years old, so clearly Apple hardware lasts. Upgrading takes a bite out of the budget, though.
Posted by Andy Brice
Jun 10, 2025 at 03:00 PM
Amontillado wrote:
>My machines are 10 years old, so clearly Apple hardware lasts.
The trackpad on my MacBook Air only lasted 2.5 years. Warranty was only 1 year. Not impressed, given the price.
Posted by Lucine
Jun 10, 2025 at 04:55 PM
Wait what, so mac apps don’t work on older versions of macOS or iOS? This is total news to me, so what do devs have to do to keep the business running for a longer period then? Make significant changes for each new mac version? Approximately how much time can an average purchased software be expected to work in the iOS and macOS enviornment then? Apparently there has been a differently named OS every year in the recent years.
I was actually considering buying a macOS device just to use some of the most fascinating apps that get mentioned here but I pirate (unpopular opinion here, and understandably so) and a lot of those that can be found can be quite old. So they probably wouldn’t even work on the new mac minis. That’s really interesting, and something people seldomly mention for some reason.
A question for heavy mac users, to what extent has this been a problem and what do you usually do about this? Do you just buy the classic one-time purchase software, and the optional upgrades purchases cover the OS changes and make sure the application keeps working? What if you don’t want to or can’t purchase an upgrade and you need new hardware but then all your data is in the old OS that you can’t use in the hypothetical situation. Do you then just export content and find another app that can import satisfactory?
And maybe this can partially explain why the subscription model took over?
Andy Brice wrote:
>So what to do ? Use only apps from big companies like Apple or
>Microsoft , that are unlikely to disappear in the short/medium term ?
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>In my experience big companies kill off products as often as small
>companies, if not more so. Google is famous for killing products.
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>For longevity:
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>* Downloadable software beats web software. Web software dies the second
>the vendor turns off their server. Downloadable software might keep
>going for decades.
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>* Windows applications beat Mac applications. Microsoft puts a lot of
>effort into backward compatibility. Apple nukes their entire ecosystem
>from orbit every few years.
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>* Choose software that uses (or can export to) an text based standard
>format, such as CSV.
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>As a vendor I hope to keep my applications available to customers for
>some years after I stop selling them, if I possibly can.
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>And, if you are having to reshape/reformat data to move it from
>application to another, maybe consider my Easy Data Transform software.
>;0)
>https://www.easydatatransform.com
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