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Posted by Paul Korm
Nov 27, 2019 at 04:19 PM

 

Here’s why I would not subscribe to Curio.  Zengobi is very responsive to user requests (that is, George Browning—who is the entirely of Zengobi.)  As as result, George is frequently making minor additions to Curio, and making those available to users in a “preview” channel. 

If you subscribe through the App Store, you will not be able to participate in the preview channel and will have less opportunity to suggest changes before the previews are baked and incorporated in the updates available from Zengobi or the App Store subscribers.

It’s a personal preference, but I’ve always found that being able to work with the previews is interesting and it helps George make better products.

Also, Zengobi historically offers good discounts on upgrade pricing and is very generous with trials.

 


Posted by Amontillado
Nov 27, 2019 at 04:41 PM

 

Good to know, Paul.

So far, I find myself thinking that Curio is what One Note should have been. It’s more flexible, all the figure types, etc., it’s just good stuff.

It’s got some quirks. I wouldn’t say I’ve found any bugs, but you have to learn how some things work. For example, open a Curio project and click on an Organizer entry (an idea space). The Meta button will show the meta info for the idea space. Now click into a figure. The meta button will show metadata for the figure. All cool.

Now click back on an Organizer entry, and the meta button will still be in “figure” mode, not “idea space” mode. Clicking on an Organizer entry doesn’t change the context of the meta button.

Curio is very nice. I’m dead set on either a subscription or a purchase, and I’ll get the full-up Pro version. It’s more than I arguably need, but when it comes to software like this, too much is never enough.

The references feature Matthew mentioned in an earlier post is very, very cool. You can follow a references to or from any figure. It’s almost like jump thoughts in The Brain, which I have long thought were genius. Since references in Curio are at the figure (object) level, they have utility beyond what The Brain offers in that regard.

Clay tablets and artfully trimmed wood stylii are all anyone needs to write. Things like Curio sure streamline the process, though. I’m going to enjoy using it.

 


Posted by Amontillado
Nov 27, 2019 at 05:12 PM

 

Wow - note the time stamps on my last post and this one. In that interim, I sent email to Zengobi with observations about Curio _and_ got a nice reply back from George.

The product is great, features like References are well thought out, and the company is quick and thoughtful with customer support. Nice!

 


Posted by mathew
Nov 27, 2019 at 05:31 PM

 

For me the main reason to purchase the Pro version is you get the “Spread PDF” feature. I work at a University. This feature allows me to easily create a “template” of how I want one page in the PDF to look: e.g. PDF page taking up about 33% of the page, a clear area for added instructor notes, and so on. Then I click on Spread PDF and that self-created template for one page gets replicated throughout the whole PDF: no matter whether the PDF is 2 or 200 pages. Very very helpful. However, that feature is now included in the Standard version for 13.

The references and cross-references features I believe are only in Pro.

If you are an educator then the price is even better. Academic price for Pro is $90, but academic upgrades are $50 for Pro. And you need not upgrade with each new addition. Pick and choose when there are added features that make an upgrade worthwhile to you.

 


Posted by NickG
Nov 27, 2019 at 06:36 PM

 

I endorse all of this - Curio is a marvellous product and George’s support is a marvel in itself

Paul Korm wrote:
Here’s why I would not subscribe to Curio.  Zengobi is very responsive
>to user requests (that is, George Browning—who is the entirely of
>Zengobi.)  As as result, George is frequently making minor additions to
>Curio, and making those available to users in a “preview” channel. 
> >If you subscribe through the App Store, you will not be able to
>participate in the preview channel and will have less opportunity to
>suggest changes before the previews are baked and incorporated in the
>updates available from Zengobi or the App Store subscribers.
> >It’s a personal preference, but I’ve always found that being able to
>work with the previews is interesting and it helps George make better
>products.
> >Also, Zengobi historically offers good discounts on upgrade pricing and
>is very generous with trials.

 


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