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Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Nov 24, 2019 at 04:52 PM

 

Jeffery Smith wrote:
>What I need to learn (and then teach others) is part of a much larger
>Human Resource system (named Banner) that is essentially a huge
>relational database with modules for Human Resources, Student Records,
>and Class Offerings, It is like PeopleSoft, but better implemented for
>higher education.
> >What I have are dozens of screens, some of which are HR screens, some of
>which are Student Record (enrollment) screens, and some of which are
>rules for how faculty will be paid based on which classes are linked to
>each instructor. So, I’m working within a pre-defined database to which
>I have to link records using multiple tables. What I need is some sort
>of visual system (or WikiLink system) until I get straight in my head
>which tables link to which tables, and which fields are absolutely
>essential. So, I’m teaching myself because the vendor of the software
>would prefer that I spend a week in another state learning en masse with
>others.

Hi Jeffrey,

I’ve read this thread numerous times and it is still not clear (1) what you have, (2) what you need and (3) who will use this…
(this last post of yours did help explain it a bit)

1. If you have access to the database, why not open it in a database manager and look at the structure, the tables, the relations, the keys, etc
2. Once the database structure is known, you will want to explore the UI that was build to enter / view the data. A visual tool may be useful, but any writing tool can do the job. It is basically a writing exercise, to document the processes
3. If the audience, i.e. those that will use your work, is on a single OS, an OS specific tool seems appropriate, otherwise it could either be (1) a document on a dropbox-like server which users would download, (2) a shared Google Doc, or (3)  a web hosted document (which is what I use to document InfoQube)

HTH

Pierre
IQ Designer

 


Posted by Jeffery Smith
Nov 24, 2019 at 09:21 PM

 

It is a bit unusual. Banner is a large database system, and it comes in several versions. As new versions are released, one can choose to stay with the previous version if there is no benefit to upgrading. What I’m going to be working on is a module (from Ellucian) that works with Banner by accessing Banner’s tables related to Human Resources, Payroll, and Student Affairs (class offerings and schedules). Thus, I have the task of getting some familiarity with tables in all three areas as well as how to link them.

What Curio will hopefully let me do is create a knowledge base for my own use until I get everything up and running. Then I’ll have to train the department chairs on how to use it. I think Curio will be good for that as well, as it has some graphics capability.

Jeffery

 


Posted by Paul Korm
Nov 24, 2019 at 09:44 PM

 

I believe @J J Weimer who posted earlier in this thread uses Curio for presentations—he might have some tips for you on that front.  Curio is far superior to Tinderbox for export cases like yours.

Jeffery Smith wrote:
>What Curio will hopefully let me do is create a knowledge base for my
>own use until I get everything up and running. Then I’ll have to train
>the department chairs on how to use it. I think Curio will be good for
>that as well, as it has some graphics capability.

 


Posted by J J Weimer
Nov 24, 2019 at 11:18 PM

 

As Paul Korm noted, I use Curio exclusively to develop my lecture and research presentations.

I’d be glad to pick up the discussions in the Curio user forum.

Jeffery Smith wrote:
>...
>What Curio will hopefully let me do is create a knowledge base for my
>own use until I get everything up and running. Then I’ll have to train
>the department chairs on how to use it. I think Curio will be good for
>that as well, as it has some graphics capability.
> >Jeffery

 


Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 25, 2019 at 09:16 AM

 

I’d totally agree with those who’ve suggested:

Curio for purposes of analysis

FileMaker Pro for eventual DBMS setup and integration (it has support for MySQL)

Best of luck - sounds like a somewhat painful project!

Bill

 


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