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Posted by tightbeam
Mar 28, 2018 at 03:12 PM

 

Is his core clientele really more likely to have Bitcoin than PayPal? Of the two payment options available for the desktop version - Bitcoin or sharing my credit card information with an overseas one-man band who may or may not practice good digital security habits - neither appeals. Seriously: he takes Bitcoin but not PayPal?

As washere pointed out in his usual thorough detail, the desktop version of Gingko came out of the oven half-baked, with a few fingernails and teeth still in the pastry. Cynical me wonders if the developer put it on the table to pull in some quick cash as it doesn’t seem like he’s getting rich off the online version of the app. He’s not going to get rich off the desktop version, either.

Maybe he’ll add missing features over time, but first impressions do count.

 


Posted by satis
Mar 28, 2018 at 04:15 PM

 

bobmclain wrote:
Is his core clientele really more likely to have Bitcoin than PayPal?

I paid (from within the app, I think) using my credit card. Using Stripe processing. Never saw anything about Bitcoin.

 


Posted by washere
Mar 28, 2018 at 04:31 PM

 

On his website he now only takes bitcoin or credit cards on a page which collects data under his domain name and his server or web host.

He’s got to get the business basics right to make enough money to fuel further progress. Even if he won’t contract bits to another coder. That includes PayPal on his website and other basic effective and free marketing means.

He should get the Win/Mac/online into series shape and that’s where the majority of users & revenue is. That includes adequate:

Features
Interface
Customization
Settings

If not to professional levels at least to adequate levels. He can use a modern lib kit for both Mac/Win platforms for interface coding. So really one project.

Then with more income coming in, he can farm out contacts for apps, chrome, Linux etc.

I think he’s just happy ticking over which won’t do. Someone else will do the same interface, and well this time, with at least some features if not serious ones.

 


Posted by washere
Mar 28, 2018 at 04:38 PM

 

Sorry about the usual typo, not typing but swyping on the phone.

 


Posted by Adriano
Mar 28, 2018 at 04:39 PM

 

Hi all.

There’s a lot to address here, and I won’t get into all of it, except to clarify some points.

I wasn’t aware that Bitcoin came up as an option, and will disable it (it’s more confusing than anything).
I wish I could support PayPal… really I do, and not just so I can get more money in my “cash grabs”, but because I want Gingko to be accessible to everyone, and not everyone has a credit card. But for now, the accounting and integration with PayPal is a real headache compared to what I’m using (stripe.com), especially when I want to offer things like Pay-What-You-Want.

With Stripe, none of your card details are stored (or in fact, ever even reach) my servers/databases.

As for the other comments, regarding the app’s half-baked state… I know!!
Releasing software is damn hard… but writing it in a vacuum is even harder.

Not everyone agrees with the approach, but enough people have given me helpful feedback that I’m happy with the decision.

 


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