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Posted by bartb
Mar 21, 2018 at 03:17 AM

 

Agreed.

IMHO: the best product MS made was Excel and I still use it to this day. I think OneNote was also a great product that never seemed to get the support and resources it deserved. Too bad. Its a great fit for tablets.

 


Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 21, 2018 at 09:20 AM

 

Office 365 subscriptions still contain the “full” version of OneNote, and not the simplified version installed with Windows 10.  (Both versions can coexist on the same machine.)  I just added a new machine to my Office 365 allotment of computers and the full version of OneNote was installed.

washere wrote:
>The good old OneNote version didn’t have the clout to be resurrected in
>the dinosaur corporation. It is well and deeply buried for good. I have
>the last good version, but what’s the use of investing time in it when I
>know this parrot is dead.

 


Posted by Lothar Scholz
Mar 21, 2018 at 10:29 AM

 


>undeclared campaign finance violations is being approximately valued at
>$100m. That’s the golden-egg, if you can create a golden-egg laying
>chicken, you are looking at billion$. Which makes the rest look like
>chicken feed. Data.

Yeah, 100 million my arse. Its hyped like everything else in this now
insane game of Russophobia from people who just can’t get over the fact
that it wasn’t information or data that made Trump the president but their own corrupt and
digusting massmurderous war criminal candidate.

 


Posted by NickG
Mar 21, 2018 at 10:34 AM

 

Dr Andus wrote:
bartb wrote:
>>MS is
>>enjoying a lot of success with Office 365.
> >Maybe, but here is an interesting counterexample:
> >The Airbus CEO on why they chose Google G Suite instead of Office 365:
> >“He claimed Google’s G Suite was “built from the ground
>up” for collaboration, and Airbus’ traditional tools in use
>were based around Microsoft and email.
> >“We want people to fundamentally reconsider how they work and move
>away from old ways of working, like sending millions of emails
>around,” said Hennekens.
> >“It is a lot easier to achieve that with a tool that, from its
>conception, radically breaks with past ways of working and past
>concepts, rather than working with a tool (Office 365), that is a step
>up, but still in many ways is similar to what we’ve been using in
>the past.”
> >“Interestingly, Hennekens was previously CIO at Qantas, and joined
>months after the company had deployed Office 365.”
> >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/15/airbus_cio_interview/

Hmm. I’m working with an organisation that has just (last July) moved from Google to O365. The move has introduced a lot of friction into what were previously reasonably smooth collaborative models. Two reasons:

- As suggested in the quoted article, collaboration was an add-on to Outlook, especially the calendar, and doesn’t reflect how people work naturally.
- Much of the collaboration is built on Sharepoint, which demands *a lot* of design and configuration to fit the organisation’s specific use cases.

The result is that what was quick and intuitive now requires much more in the way of work and forethought from the end users. It seems to me, as a relative outsized (I’m contracted to a specific project), that all the current benefits are to the IT department and it ability to manage, administer and control and none are to the users. In fairness, there are plans that might deliver end user benefits down the road, but my experience is that “down the road” never actually delivers.

Sorry - that went somewhat off topic

 


Posted by washere
Mar 21, 2018 at 12:29 PM

 

Lothar Scholz wrote:

>
>>undeclared campaign finance violations is being approximately valued at
>>$100m. That’s the golden-egg, if you can create a golden-egg laying
>>chicken, you are looking at billion$. Which makes the rest look like
>>chicken feed. Data.
> >Yeah, 100 million my arse. Its hyped like everything else in this now
>insane game of Russophobia from people who just can’t get over the fact
>that it wasn’t information or data that made Trump the president but
>their own corrupt and
>digusting massmurderous war criminal candidate.

The quoted valuation is nothing to do with politics. They are basically multiplying the 50 million people by two dollars. The real story is not political rants by various partisans or countries. The real story is both Houses looking to legislate social media giants more tightly how they harvest, maintain, share and profit from personal data.

The other aspect is the European legislation is tighter and expected to become even more harsh for social media. That’s why Facebook lost tens of billions in shares. They’ll have to confirm to that lower common denominator anyway. As Microsoft and Google learnt in costly ways.

Another reason is penalties. IIRC Facebook agreed to pay $40,000 for each data infringement case. Some Wall Street analysts are multiplying that number by 50 million. Others say some lower yet hefty fine in the U.S. and/or will be inevitable.

Regardless, a database of fifty million Americans’ personal data and interferences is easily worth tens of millions if not more. As anybody who’s worked with advertising, focus groups, Politics, lobbying, PR etc knows. Advertising and marketing revenue is not in the billions but trillions. That’s how the giants make money, like Google. I don’t think anyone has a similar fifty million or larger database of Americans’ personal social media data except Google and Facebook. And maybe Amazon but not that personal. Instagram is owned by Facebook. Not sure about fifty mill Americans on Twitter or LinkedIn.

I don’t know how much that Russian professor sold that USB stick for, but he’s realized he got peanuts for it. That’s why any social media who has tens of millions of users in US or Europe, not to mention rising Asia, is valued in tens of billions as in the case of social media giants. Data. And they’re still growing.

Facebook enforcers went to make sure the fifty million database was being deleted! As though another USB stick couldn’t be made and wasn’t in another dubious guy’s pocket from that firm! While they were there, the government officials arrived, locked down the systems and kicked the Facebook enforcers out. The database will still be used secretly for metrics by whoever gets a copy. It will be useful for some years to come.

 

 

 

 


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