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Posted by donleone
Apr 6, 2014 at 09:01 PM

 

Originally inspired by this former thread started of mine,
in search of the ideal best possible multiple spreadsheet-integrated working environment:

http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/5031/0/tree-outliner-with-internal-excel-full-edit-ribbon-viewer

it finally dawned on me to leave behind the going extinct OLE framework
for its convenient in-place / in-line integrated editing ability of documents
(because of its soo great scarcity of available software that could truly do in-line in-place EDITING)

and go instead unto the new paradigm, which i like to term OLE-INE
(aka. an golden mixture solution of OLE (symbolic of an offline app) and ONLINE (that but is loaded with online apps !),
in demand to the trend of ever-more and more online tools/apps appearing on the market,
and the ever growing need to MANAGE all of these apps efficiently - in an INTEGRATED workspace fashion.

HERE THUS A SCREENSHOT
of what such an integrated end-result could look like:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12285943/UNLIMITED_MDI_VIA_BROWSER.jpg

in which we have COMBINED:

1. Online Excel OneDrive (former Skydrive), available for FREE.

with

2. Online Word OneDrive (former Skype), available for FREE.

with

3. OneDrive itself used as file storage + as NAVIGATIONal TREE, also all for FREE.


motivated therefore, by this so simple & ingenuously expandable INTEGRATION SUCCESS,

i am thus purposed to leave the last decade OLE behind,

and go for the next decade OLE-INE integration.


________________________________

THE 3 KEY REQUIREMENTS
________________________________


1. You need ONLINE APPS
(such as, e.g. spreadsheet, word processing,
outlining, todolist , or whatever else you can think of)

= for this we have limited our selection to
Online Spreadsheet & Online Office apps.

2. You need A COMBINED INTERFACE
(from which you access & manage all these nice apps,
favorably in a Multiple Windows program (aka. MDI environment)


= for this we have limited our selection to
- Multiple Windows Browsers (true MDI),
- Outliners with Internal Browsers,
- Other Tools with Internal browsers

 

3. You need a CENTRALIZED DATA STORAGE with Backup
(either Dropbox, or Cloud, or just on your own server)

= such as the Skydrive/Onedrive and OfficeApps integration for example.


So what tools can help us to achieve this
Integrated-Multi-Window-Application-Workspace-Goal?

Here are some gathered ideas:

________________________________________

Online Spreadsheet / Online Office Options
________________________________________


Zoho Sheet (http://www.zoho.com/docs/online-spreadsheet.html)

Smartsheet.com (http://www.smartsheet.com/)

ThinkFree Office (http://www.thinkfree.com/main.jsp)

Ethercalc (https://ethercalc.org/1vr98tm2yk)

SecureSheet (http://securesheet.com/)

ContactOffice (http://www.contactoffice.com/)

Excel Web App / One Drive (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/online/)

Google Spreadsheets / Google Drive (http://docs.google.com )


OR AT BEST ( for maximum data security & privacy )
you can put a spreadsheet application ON YOUR OWN SERVER if you have,
such as a joomla spreadsheet app or the like, and then login & use it from there.

 

________________________________________

Multiple Windows Browsers (true MDI Browsers)
________________________________________


Lunascape (http://www.lunascape.tv/products/win/orion/img/en/Orion13.png    +  http://www.lunascape.tv/)

Crazy Browser (http://www.crazybrowser.com/)

Firefox FoxSplitter (https://addons.cdn.mozilla.net/img/uploads/previews/full/11/11593.png?modified=1331247702)

Acco Browser (http://www.acoobrowser.com/screen.php)

Avant Browser (http://www.avantbrowser.com/help/images/ab.gif    +    http://www.avantbrowser.com)

 

________________________________________

Outliners WITH Internal Browsers
________________________________________


WINDOWS
- - - - - - - - - - - -

IMiser Research Assistant (http://www.internetresearchtool.com/screenshots.htm)

Ultra Recall Internal Browser (http://www.kinook.com/UltraRecall/Screenshots/BrowserView.jpg    +    http://www.kinook.com/)

MyInfo (http://www.milenix.com/images/main-feature-browser-large.png      +      http://www.milenix.com)

Connected Text (http://www.connectedtext.com/images/screen/sc05.png    +  http://www.connectedtext.com/)

WebResearch (http://www.macropool.de/en/products/webresearch/tour/view_documents.html    +    http://www.macropool.de/en/products/webresearch/index.html)

Folario (http://www.foliaro.com/screenshots.html)

MyBase (http://www.wjjsoft.com/mybase_screenshots.html)

InfoSelect (http://miclog.com/images/is7_screenshot.gif  +    http://miclog.com)

Zoot (http://www.zootsoftware.com/Images/Zoot XT Pics/xt_zooter.png     +    http://www.zootsoftware.com/ )

 

MAC
- - - - - - - - - - - -

Curio (http://www.zengobi.com/products/curio/)

Journler (http://journler.com/features/screenshots/journler-web.png    +    http://journler.com/)

Soho Notes (http://www.chronosnet.com/Products/sohonotes.html#bookmarklet)

DevonThink Pro (http://blog.devontechnologies.com/2008/08/tuesday-tip-using-devonthink-pro-as-a-web-browser/)

DevonAgent (http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/devonagent/overview.html)

DevonNotes (http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/devonnote.html)

MyStuffPro (http://www.mindersoftworks.com/products/mystuff/)


LINUX
- - - - - - - - - - - -

sorry, don’t know Linux :-)


________________________________________

Other Tools WITH Integrated Browsers
________________________________________

MindManager Pro (http://www.mindjet.com)

XMind (http://www.xmind.net/blog/en/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/online_twitter.jpg    +    http://www.xmind.net/)

Desktop Sales Office (http://softwareonsailboats.com/crm_sales_university/release-notes)

MaxTo (amazing Rotating View Ability…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15_e-f3hMg&feature=youtu.be    +  http://maxto.net/)


_   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _


That therefore closes thus now my quest with OLE integrated software,

and opens thus a new new bigger world of numerous Online App integration possibilities,

if only you too decide to also go OLE-INE :-))


greetings!

 

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Apr 6, 2014 at 09:42 PM

 

Thanks for sharing this compilation. You could also add http://www.task-space.com/ to the list (beware of the installation options though, as it tries to trick people to install some crapware).

 


Posted by Franz Grieser
Apr 7, 2014 at 04:26 PM

 

Don.

I don’t get it. What’s the real benefit? Having all your stuff “in the cloud”? Why then do you mention ConnectedText, Curio, etc.?
“Integration”? In what way? I do not see how you could integrate Word, Excel, ConnectedText, Infoselect and the other apps better through the web?

And, BTW: What is free about Word, Excel, OneNote? Or do you mean Skydrive is free? Well, Dropbox Box, etc. are, too.

Franz

 


Posted by tightbeam
Apr 7, 2014 at 05:32 PM

 

This seems like a lot of work to get much the same result as you could with Dropbox and SugarSync (or some folder symlinks), regardless of what software you use.

 


Posted by donleone
Apr 7, 2014 at 05:49 PM

 

Franz Grieser wrote:
Don.
> >I don’t get it. What’s the real benefit? Having all your stuff “in the
>cloud”? Why then do you mention ConnectedText, Curio, etc.?

 

The big idea is to USE the so often under-estimated Internal Browser feature of these tools (as e.g. Connected Text / Curio / Zoot etc etc…),
exactly “not” to just surf & clip webpages, or keep simple bookmarks with it,

but much more powerfully

USE these Integrated Browsers in Connected Text / Curio / Zoot etc….
to establish a connection to & LAUNCH an online app
that provides a functionality that you wish your own native Outliner would have (but does not),
and thus achieve to have e.g. a full-blown spreadsheet functionality (or todo app, drawing app, or whatever else online exists and you’d love to have “added-in” into your Tool)

and thereby be thus able, to EXTEND your Outliner,
with as many additional useful apps,
as it can “one per browser window” hold.

Thus again, the BENEFIT of Integration being,

that you don’t have to have 2 or 3 or 4 Programs open on your desktop simultanously
(as e.g. ConnectText + Excel + Drawing app etc.),

but only ONE Key Main Program (such as e.g. Connected Text / Curio / Zoot etc…)

and Integrate VIA THE BROWSER into it, if you wish 10 Apps in it,
via simply opening 10 pre-surfed-to-the-web-address-browser-windows
(and then logged in, and “remember me” logged-in checked, to keep logged in)

and then all these app-connections (and their respectively saved documents-direct links),
can then become simply organized in your existing Tree / Folder Structure of your Outliner,
renamed to your desired App/Document and simply Internal Browser window lanched,
with a simple double-click on it.

 

 

>“Integration”? In what way? I do not see how you could integrate Word,
>Excel, ConnectedText, Infoselect and the other apps better through the
>web?
> >And, BTW: What is free about Word, Excel, OneNote? Or do you mean
>Skydrive is free? Well, Dropbox Box, etc. are, too.

 


Yes, almost all “online apps” have a free version
that is often enough for basic needs,
and even Word Online and Excel Online and Skydrive/Dropbox etc…
are all in their Basic Versions completely freely available

and thus all possible candidates
for your outliner-expansion via its Internal Browser ability.

 


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