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Posted by MadaboutDana
Jan 26, 2018 at 10:24 AM
It’s okay, but without a search function, fairly limited in usefulness. Shame! Gingko is an amazing concept.
Posted by jaslar
Jul 3, 2025 at 10:15 PM
Fellow CRIMPers:
Gingko update from many years later. It WAS and is an amazing concept. Horizontal outliners are handy for some kinds of things, and Gingko when I first saw it was simple, clear, and quick. Brilliant in design, well-integrated with the emerging markdown format.
I just took a look at the latest iteration I could find.
A work of art is not necessarily a business success. Enter ” gingko ” in the search bar for the whole history. I posted here because this topic had the most visits. It’s a pretty fascinating discussion on the aims of outlinersoftware and the sustainability of its core components.
I give Gingko as an idea and execution a big thumbs up.
I still want a document view, a toggle or plug-in, that looks and works like Gingko. It had precise and powerful editing power too. The developer seems to have moved to Obsidian. For me, Dynalist still hits the frictionless outliner ideal. That’s one use case. I’m happy enough.
But I do wonder: Does the concept live on? Where?
Posted by satis
Jul 4, 2025 at 05:22 AM
jaslar wrote:
Fellow CRIMPers:
>
>The developer seems to have moved to Obsidian.
That would be rich, considering that Adriano is still charging $117/yr for the GingkoWriter service. But are you sure? I looked and he has no public project or contribution associated with Obsidian. How did you hear he moved to Obsidian?
>Does the concept live on? Where?
The small tender branch of horizontal writing/outlining apps pretty much withered with the withdrawal of Tree outliner and the moribund status of Gingko.
Earlier this year I stumbled across some text-based writing app that similar to Gingko but it was a very raw v0.2 alpha that one person was working on slowly, and it didn’t seem stable enough to pay attention to. I think I saw a Github link for it posted by the dev on a productivity subreddit.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Jul 4, 2025 at 07:50 AM
I’m not sure the developer has moved to Obsidian, but someone has certainly replicated the Gingko concept in Obsidian – very well, in fact. The plugin concerned is called Lineage, and works precisely like Gingko. The write-up says that it was “inspired by Gingko Writer”, so presumably it isn’t the original developer (his/her GitHub name is ycnmhd).
I use it quite a lot! I’ve also experimented with it as an alternative task management approach. For some people, it might be the ideal solution.
It also works on mobile.
jaslar wrote:
Fellow CRIMPers:
>
>Gingko update from many years later. It WAS and is an amazing concept.
>Horizontal outliners are handy for some kinds of things, and Gingko when
>I first saw it was simple, clear, and quick. Brilliant in design,
>well-integrated with the emerging markdown format.
>
>I just took a look at the latest iteration I could find.
>
>A work of art is not necessarily a business success. Enter ” gingko ” in
>the search bar for the whole history. I posted here because this topic
>had the most visits. It’s a pretty fascinating discussion on the aims of
>outlinersoftware and the sustainability of its core components.
>
>I give Gingko as an idea and execution a big thumbs up.
>
>I still want a document view, a toggle or plug-in, that looks and works
>like Gingko. It had precise and powerful editing power too. The
>developer seems to have moved to Obsidian. For me, Dynalist still hits
>the frictionless outliner ideal. That’s one use case. I’m happy enough.
>
>But I do wonder: Does the concept live on? Where?
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jul 4, 2025 at 10:30 AM
As far as I can tell, Gingko Writer is still alive and well, at least to judge by the website:
I don’t know that it has been updated recently, although the pricing has. They had had a “pay what you want” option, which no longer seems to be the case.
Steve
jaslar wrote:
Fellow CRIMPers:
>
>Gingko update from many years later. It WAS and is an amazing concept.
>Horizontal outliners are handy for some kinds of things, and Gingko when
>I first saw it was simple, clear, and quick. Brilliant in design,
>well-integrated with the emerging markdown format.
>
>I just took a look at the latest iteration I could find.
>
>A work of art is not necessarily a business success. Enter ” gingko ” in
>the search bar for the whole history. I posted here because this topic
>had the most visits. It’s a pretty fascinating discussion on the aims of
>outlinersoftware and the sustainability of its core components.
>
>I give Gingko as an idea and execution a big thumbs up.
>
>I still want a document view, a toggle or plug-in, that looks and works
>like Gingko. It had precise and powerful editing power too. The
>developer seems to have moved to Obsidian. For me, Dynalist still hits
>the frictionless outliner ideal. That’s one use case. I’m happy enough.
>
>But I do wonder: Does the concept live on? Where?