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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Aug 2, 2013 at 03:04 PM

 

22111 wrote:
I forgot to mention why I mentioned Jot Merge: Because it is the only
>try of my knowledge any outliner developer ever has undertaken to bring
>about a solution to the age-old problem of synchronizing two different
>versions of the same outline file, and that is certainly worth an
>honorable mention even if it has nothing to do with the problem at hand,
>all the more laudable since Jot is text file based, not database based,
>where such functionality should be much easier to realize.

This is indeed important. For the record, Brainstorm also does this kind of merge/sync out of the box, even though it is not database based. I am quite certain I read about this feature recently in a program discussed in this forum, but I can’t pin it down now.

(And I can’t go anywhere else to remember what it was, as I read it in this same PC in this same location…)

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Aug 2, 2013 at 05:03 PM

 

22111 wrote:
>I forgot to mention why I mentioned Jot Merge: Because it is the only
>>try of my knowledge any outliner developer ever has undertaken to bring
>>about a solution to the age-old problem of synchronizing two different
>>versions of the same outline file

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>This is indeed important. For the record, Brainstorm also does this kind
>of merge/sync out of the box, even though it is not database based.

WorkFlowy does something similar automatically when you make changes to the outline offline in one or more devices, and then you sync it with the online version.

ConnectedText’s outliner also allows you to import another outline into any of the branches or items of an existing outline (but that’s not so much a merge between two different files).

 


Posted by 22111
Aug 2, 2013 at 05:28 PM

 

What CT does in this respect, every outliner of my knowledge does.

But the mention of WorkFlowy is of interest here, and it seems to be obvious that with the advent of cloud-based services and their integration with pc software, there will be more and more of such real synching being introduced, which is a very good thing. But in fact, all those “powerhouses”, of those traditional, powerful, feature-rich outliners, none of them ever tried to program such functionality, or at least did not tell users they failed with its implementation, and it should be held for sure that with the transposition of traditional outliners to portable devices, such synching problems between two versions worked upon concurrently will multiply. Or seen from another angle of view, traditional outliners will recede in the market even more, for this particular reason, too, for the benefit of cloud-based software.

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Aug 2, 2013 at 05:55 PM

 

22111 wrote:
>What CT does in this respect, every outliner of my knowledge does.

Really? In CT you can go deep within a hierarchy, select any item, right click, and import an outline in .XML, .OPML, .TXT, or .MM format exactly under that item in the hierarchy. None of my other outliners seem to be able to do that…

 


Posted by Cassius
Aug 2, 2013 at 06:26 PM

 

22111 wrote: ...
>- This being said, and without the Jot tool being available to
>non-customers, what does the Word output from it do? Failure of
>exporting the hierarchy into a similar Word one? Since if I am not
>mistaken, Ultra Recall would properly import a Word document, splitting
>it up again by its title/subtitle hierarchy, into an according tree of
>items.
==========================
Jot+ can output to rtf.  I tried that but could not get the hierarchical (tree) output like I did in 2012.  Maybe the memory of what I did will bubble up to the surface…maybe.

 


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