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Posted by Garland Coulson
Jun 30, 2013 at 04:52 AM

 

johnmcde wrote:
You might want to try Org-mode. Org has a sophisticated system for
>clocking time, etc. and Org is a wonderful single pane outliner.
>Org-mode is a major mode of Gnu-Emacs which is free and available on all
>major operating systems.
> >John

Thanks John,

The Org-mode I found looked like it had an old Dos style screen and command line interface? 

I am not really interested in a text based system - I like GUI. Also, I prefer cloud-based solutions so my team can log in and use it rather than desktop software.

Garland

 


Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Jun 30, 2013 at 08:31 AM

 

Garland Coulson wrote:
>I am not really interested in a text based system - I like GUI. Also, I
>prefer cloud-based solutions so my team can log in and use it rather
>than desktop software.

Check out this older thread:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/3328/0/team-solutions-2-collaborative-webspace-for-project-management

I will also try to provide some additional updated info if I find the time and head. For the moment, just two suggestions for time tracking: Toggl https://www.toggl.com/ and Klok http://www.getklok.com/  I personally use the latter, which is brilliant for showing you the day as it evolves and can export/link to several systems.

 


Posted by johnmcde
Jun 30, 2013 at 05:37 PM

 

Hugh wrote:

>
>johnmcde wrote:
>You might want to try Org-mode. Org has a sophisticated system for
>>clocking time, etc. and Org is a wonderful single pane outliner.
>>Org-mode is a major mode of Gnu-Emacs which is free and available on
>all
>>major operating systems.
>>
>>John
> >I looked at Org-mode four or five years ago. Learning it appeared likely
>to demand time that I could not then afford. Maybe this was simply
>because it didn’t seem to be in the MS-Project type of framework with
>which I was familiar. Has it become more user-friendly since then?

Org-mode is part of Emacs now so you have to become comfortable with the Emacs ways of doing things. I dedicated a few function keys to more complex commands and am learning commands I need as I go along. You can use as much or as little of org-mode as you like. I looked for alternatives to Org and Emacs but keep coming back because I haven’t found anything that comes close.

John

 


Posted by johnmcde
Jun 30, 2013 at 05:42 PM

 

Garland Coulson wrote:

>
>johnmcde wrote:
>You might want to try Org-mode. Org has a sophisticated system for
>>clocking time, etc. and Org is a wonderful single pane outliner.
>>Org-mode is a major mode of Gnu-Emacs which is free and available on
>all
>>major operating systems.
>>
>>John
> >Thanks John,
> >The Org-mode I found looked like it had an old Dos style screen and
>command line interface? 
> >I am not really interested in a text based system - I like GUI. Also, I
>prefer cloud-based solutions so my team can log in and use it rather
>than desktop software.
> >Garland


That’s interesting. I have the GUI version of Emacs (comes with Org-mode standard) installed. You can run Emacs from a terminal by telling emacs to load the non-gui version via the command line. The GUI version is the default on my installations. I have Emacs 24 installed on Linux and Windows, both with a GUI.

John

 


Posted by Garland Coulson
Jun 30, 2013 at 07:00 PM

 

JerryNotts wrote:

>
>Garland Coulson wrote:
>Hugh wrote:
>>
>>>Second, what do you mean by ‘time tracking’? Most Gantt-chart based
>>>applications will enable you to record actual progress against the
>>plan,
>>>and indicate resulting knock-ons. Anything more automated might
>require
>>>a dedicated time-tracking application.
>>
>>Primarily, I want to determine the profit at the end of a client
>>project. So if I and my team each track our time, and I can see how
>long
> >Look at To-Do-List http://www.abstractspoon.com/
> >This only tracks time, gives you spaces to describe the task and
>sub-tasks down to many levels. Time cost can be set-up and estimates of
>time to spend. You can enter things like the start date, deadline and
>best of all has buttons to click each time you start and end a task. It
>has reporting functions as well.
> >I use it with my team almost daily. Its very configurable and intuitive
>to use. Each option does what it says, can be set to start when Windows
>starts so always running in the background. The developer started it as
>a programming exercise and it does not seem very well known. It is being
>constantly improved, does not appear to have any bugs. You really just
>need to download it an start using it.
> >For me it’s simplicity and use is’ its appeal. It’s FREE. By the end of
>the first day’s use you probably know everything you need to know about
>it.
> >Jerry

Hello Jerry,

I must admit to being very impressed with ToDoList from Abstract Spoon. It has tasks, subtasks, time tracking, task assignment and most other things I am looking for the interface is both minimalist and powerful at the same time.

The ONLY drawback I see to this one is that it is computer based rather than cloud-based. My reasoning for cloud-based is that I have outsource people in other countries and I thought it may make sense for them to be logging to the project management system to pick up their tasks and do tracking.

However, many of them work on oDesk where they already track their time so may balk at tracking in both places, Usually they only have a few tasks at a time as well so perhaps I could use ToDoList to manage the projects myself and just enter their time for the projects weekly.

But eventually I do want a virtual assistant to talk care of a lot of this for me and at that time I think a cloud-based system would make more sense. So perhaps it would not make sense to put a lot of time and effort into learning ToDoList instead of finding the right cloud solution.

 

Thank you for suggesting it.

 


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