Outliner Software Forum RSS Feed Forum Posts Feed

Subscribe by Email

CRIMP Defined

 

Tip Jar

Why do you CRIMP?

< Next Topic | Back to topic list | Previous Topic >

Pages:  < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 > 

Posted by jimspoon
Sep 24, 2011 at 07:34 AM

 

JBfrom wrote:
>Dang Jimspoon, have you been reading Cyborganize? This is the second thread where
>I"ve agreed with everything you said and copied down your ideas to paraphrase in my own
>website. I can’t help wondering if it’s coincidental convergence or
>cross-pollination.

Not yet, JB, but I plan to look at what you’ve come up with.  I’m realizing that that the search for the ideal PIM software is really subordinate to the search for the ideal method of processing information.  (Of course better tools make new methods possible, and can lead us to those new methods.)  I can understand your excitement in your discovery of a method that works very well for you.  It frustrates me that I have had so much difficulty in grasping how I can best assemble and unify my information that is scattered about in so many different databases that don’t easily work with one another.

 


Posted by JBfrom
Sep 24, 2011 at 09:24 AM

 

Well, I really hope you like it Jim, because you just wrote another thing that went in my epic quotes file. This was the best part in my opinion: “the search for the ideal PIM software is really subordinate to the search for the ideal method of processing information. (Of course better tools make new methods possible, and can lead us to those new methods.)”

One thing to keep in mind is that Cyborganize is meant to be like the operating system. It handles the bulk of the work, while the user customizes with preferred apps for any remaining special needs. So I’m not against the PIMs that aren’t in the core system by any means.

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Sep 24, 2011 at 06:42 PM

 

Here is another possible reason for CRIMPing: retail therapy…

This especially works on the iPad. All too easy to buy and install stuff (especially as there is no such thing as trialling an app. One has to buy it to try it. Very evil system :)

 


Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Sep 25, 2011 at 06:13 AM

 

In the enterprise world, the success of SAP as an Enterprise Resource Platform is due to the fact that—more than a software tool- SAP is a proven system of organising and monitoring operations. Huge investment has gone into developing that system, and SAP will work diligently to adjust it to any new customer.

In the personal information management world, such investments have been mostly fragmented. Rather than focusing on the knowledge worker, most money has gone into a ‘consumer’ approach, which usually aims for the lowest common denominator; as a result, the greatest success story is one of a toolbox (MS Office) whose applications are so basic they can be used for mostly anything, without really providing any kind of breakthrough. To get a perspective, a ruler might be useful whether you are designing a house or a skyscraper, but the complexity of the latter calls for tools that work at another level. A skyscraper is not designed one floor at a time, even though eventually the plans for every floor will be drawn out.

With SAP and the likes now recognising the potential of the SMB (Small and Medium Business) market, including SOHO business, I have hopes for the future. My only concern is whether they will at least consider the virtues of some of the best tools we talk about in this forum, as a starting point, or whether they will start from their own enterprise viewpoint and work their way down…

jimspoon wrote:
>I’m realizing that that the search for the ideal PIM software is really
>subordinate to the search for the ideal method of processing information.  (Of course
>better tools make new methods possible, and can lead us to those new methods.) 
[...clip…]
>It frustrates me that I have had so much difficulty in grasping how I can best assemble
>and unify my information that is scattered about in so many different databases that
>don’t easily work with one another. 

 


Posted by Paulo Diniz
Sep 29, 2011 at 12:29 AM

 

Very interesting what you said, Alexander.

The slightly paranoid side in me keeps questioning if the lack of more powerful (while still being intuitive, quick and fun ) tools for dealing and managing big amounts of data *in a PERSONAL/INDIVIDUAL* level isn’t actually a deliberate omission by the big players in the tech/software world.

After all, the lack of market can’t be used as an excuse if we consider that people don’t know what they need/want until they actually get it.

If we consider the gaming industry, comparing the progress made in the last two decades, and compare it with the PIM software market in the same period of time, then the situation really deserves a small laugh.

Civilization -> Civ5
Grandview and Lotus Agenda -> ???

When a single tool (or coordinated set of tools) give me the power of working with my pool of data in the, at least, *most* ways I can imagine, while making it fun and mentally provoking in the process, then maybe I’ll stop CRIMPing! (the preview of the Liquid Text projeect, mentioned earlier here, comes to mindl)

In a small answer, i CRIMP because i like learning, because I believe Knowledge is important, and that computers should help in the process of acquiring knowledge.

Salutations,

Paulo

 


Pages:  < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 > 

Back to topic list