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Posted by Tom S.
Aug 1, 2009 at 08:00 PM

 

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>Todo: Notecase Pro

As I am another Linux user, I would also like to echo Alexander’s endorsement of Notecase.  Its quite handy.

>Email: webmail (Gmail with

>Research and web clippings: EverNote via bookmarklet (EN has no Linux client as
>yet)

>@ Tom S.: Dan said most that I would
>say on Evernote; I personally find its flexibility in data collection excellent; its
>tag system (which I was reluctant to use) is brilliant—you can assign tags when
>collecting information or later, you can organise them in infinite levels, rename
>them, etc. Most importantly, its cross-platform nature, automatic sync and web
>access make it for me unrivaled and indispensable.

I’m going to turn this on you because, like you, cross-platform is important to me.  Although I was talking to Dan about Outlook, I rarely actually use it because I’m rarely in the Windows environment.  I use gmail for almost everything of a non-business nature, including personal research and web-clippings.  I have it all in one place.

How is what you described for Evernote different from gmail with the google toolbar’s “send to” function?  I find gmail’s tagging system faster and easier to use with the relevant shortcut keys and all of my filing is consistent across every type of electronic data.

I’m not being argumentative.  I’m really wondering if I’m missing something about Evernote.

Thanks,
Tom S.

 


Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Aug 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM

 

Tom S. wrote:
>How is what you
>described for Evernote different from gmail with the google toolbar’s “send to”
>function?  I find gmail’s tagging system faster and easier to use with the relevant
>shortcut keys and all of my filing is consistent across every type of electronic
>data.

I’ve never used Gmail that way, so I can’t comment much on the data collection itself. I think Dan already mentioned that EverNote maintains the source URL—I don’t know if Gmail does that. I would add that from my own experience EverNote and Surfulater are very good at capturing web info in a way that is relatively faithful to the source, but also easy to read—and editable; does Gmail give you the ability to edit a message in your Inbox? I guess not.

I do use Gmail for mail and one of my main problems with it is its inability to organise messages in any kind of hierarchy, whether through folders or tags. Call me old-fashioned, but this is the only forum I have been following and contributing to for goodness knows how long, precisely because I need outlines to make sense of the world.

>I’m not being argumentative.  I’m really wondering if I’m missing something
>about Evernote.

Other than the above, the main strength for me is offline access; EverNote started out as software rather than webware, and though now it’s a hybrid, my data is always in my disk for me to access regardless of internet connection. Google Gears is for me a poor substitute for genuinely keeping the underlying database locally (+backing up on the web).

alx

 


Posted by Jonathan Probber
Aug 2, 2009 at 12:07 AM

 

Evernote became immediately more useful to me when I figured out i could send an item out to it by dragging it down to the Evernote slug in my Mac’s dock.

I bought DevonThink for the hell of it, and can do something similar by dragging a file to the that little drawer which places itself at the edge of the screen. 

In both cases, I sort stuff out at my leisure, after it’s captured.

Other than that, I’m all Google, including Voice now, which is frightening.  Transcribes voice messages with sufficient accuracy, and will let me shut down telemarketers as soon as I move all of my numbers to it.

I still miss Tornado Notes.

JP

 


Posted by Jack Crawford
Aug 2, 2009 at 06:18 AM

 

My list hasn’t changed significantly since Novermber -


My main usage at the moment is:

.  Outlook + ClearContext for email and task management
.  OneNote for agendas, drafts and personal storage
.  MindManager and Inspiration when I need mindmaps and project diagrams
.  Notemap when I need a text-heavy outline (subject to caution about Word export)
.  Word & Excel 2003 for standard business reports et al.
.  dtSearch for indexing (off a USB)

Dabbling with but not yet integrated into my standard workflow.
.  InfoQube
.  TreeSheets

Would like to try:
.  Personal Brain (expensive)
.  ConnectedText (USB version still expensive)

Am still waiting on Brainstorm developments.

Jack

 


Posted by Tom S.
Aug 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

 

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:

>but also easy to read—and editable;
>does Gmail give you the ability to edit a message in your Inbox? I guess not.

It does not and that is annoying.  Outlook will allow it but if you don’t do a decent job of annotating the page before you send it to gmail, there’s no way to edit it.  Point well taken.  Jonnathan also mentioned above that Evernote allows sorting and I’m sure it allows placement of items in a certain order, something gmail does a poor job of so that’s another good point.

I will consider giving Evernote a try.

Thanks,
Tom

 


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