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Posted by Amontillado
Mar 15, 2023 at 05:14 PM

 

Use cases make all the difference. I prefer mind mapping in Curio over MindNode, for example. Curio is more flexible in linking and I can put other forms of notes side-by-side with a mind map. The folding buttons in Curio mind maps are nice, too. If I uninstalled MindNode, life would go on.

On first glance, Curio lacks a critical feature. For instance, there is no mind node note attachment - because, since everything in Curio has a note attachment, there’s no specific need for mind map notes. The same notes popup that works for any other entity in Curio works for mind map nodes.

Curio has more friction for note taking than, say, Obsidian, although the gap has narrowed.

The Welcome to Curio document, written with Curio, looks like overwhelming work. In practice, it takes almost no effort to produce documents with that level of polish.

Even when notes are just for me that degree of finesse helps keep my enthusiasm up.

Obsidian is trivially future proof. Devonthink is only slightly less future proof.

I’m pretty sure I could get all my text notes out of Curio’s XML without using Curio. That’s my standard for future proofing, but I wouldn’t do that unless there wasn’t an alternative. Exporting a project to Markdown preserves what matters. I can’t remember ever losing data in Curio, but exporting to Markdown probably isn’t a bad idea as part of backup.

For planning creative work, I think I’ve returned to Curio. It is top notch for math notebooks. It’s not for everything, and probably not for everybody.

You can’t have my Linux and Windows (yecch!) Obsidian vaults and my Mac Devonthink databases until you pry my cold dead hands from the keyboard. On the other hand, Curio is working well for me.

MadaboutDana wrote:
Interesting. I keep being tempted to return to Curio, then backing off
>again.
> >But having been rather disappointed by Agenda’s latest update (yes, it
>does now do multiple windows, but hey), I might give Curio yet another
>look…
> >Cheers!
>Bill

 


Posted by satis
Mar 15, 2023 at 08:37 PM

 

MadaboutDana wrote:

>with competitors like…. not to mention NotePlan (although the latter’s
>pricing has made it quite unsuitable for me)

NotePlan is what Agenda reminds me most of, at least given how I had been using the older NotePlan v.1.

Given that Agenda gives you a permanent unlock for all features offered within one’s $35/yr subscription period it’s a much better deal than NotePlan, which is a shame because I liked NotePlan a lot before v.2 introduced its $99/yr subscription.

It seems as if Obsidian is the reigning bang-for-the-buck option and its ecosystem of free plugins (and its attendant geekiness in customization) has attracted the cross-platform productivity crowd that previously dabbled in a passel of other products that had brief moments in the sun. I just wish I liked it more.

 


Posted by satis
Mar 15, 2023 at 08:43 PM

 

Amontillado wrote:
> Use cases make all the difference. I prefer mind mapping in Curio over
>MindNode, for example.

Although Curio’s implementation seems quite nice it’s fighting against cross-platform apps. I use MindNode 50% of the time on an iPad, and once you’ve used the Apple Pencil to select nodes and convert handwriting (not to mention dragging nodes, and making rubber band multi-selections) you don’t want to give it up.

 


Posted by Amontillado
Mar 15, 2023 at 10:33 PM

 

You are quite right. That’s a blind spot I have. For reasons of obstinance I don’t use cloud sync, and my mobile writing is all on a Macbook.

I tend not to notice if an app has a mobile version, so my advice is somewhat out of step with the mainstream.

satis wrote:


> >Although Curio’s implementation seems quite nice it’s fighting against
>cross-platform apps. I use MindNode 50% of the time on an iPad, and once
>you’ve used the Apple Pencil to select nodes and convert handwriting
>(not to mention dragging nodes, and making rubber band multi-selections)
>you don’t want to give it up.

 


Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 16, 2023 at 09:10 PM

 

$99.99 PA for NotePlan !?!? 

I’ve given NotePlan a try every few months since it first arrived in beta several years ago.  The developer is a very nice person.  However, using NotePlan always seems like a penalty for some minor misdemeanor.  Agenda does too, but less so.  At least Agenda is pretty.  I think it’s a problem with the paradigm for these apps.  As soon as notes become attached to tasks and calendars and reminders, motion sickness starts.  It’s the friction.

I’ve never thought of Curio as note-taking software.  It’s a different creature. 

Maybe someday software will include little AI djinns that will pop open polite messages such as “Excuse me, you’re using the wrong software for what you’re doing.  May I suggest other options for you?”

 


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