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Posted by Amontillado
Mar 14, 2023 at 12:42 PM


I’m very much looking forward to exploring this. Among other things, Curio now has a query language which will, if I understand correctly, build collections of links as mind maps or Kanban-style stacks.

Curio is something I’ve always come back to, particularly as a math notebook. Math-wise, and arguably in general, I’m an idiot. But I’m an inquisitive idiot. Curio is the best math whiteboard app I have. Devonthink (markdown with MathJax) is better for export, Curio is better for musing.

This week I have a documentation project to finish, which is to say I need to start it, pronto. I think I’ll develop it in Curio.


Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 14, 2023 at 09:10 PM


The release notes for Curio 25


The Smart Collection feature is very clever.  If I have a Curio project with lots of idea spaces (i.e., canvases), and several of them mention my perpetual motion invention, then I can create a list on a canvas and assign a simple query to it such as “perpetual motion”.  Curio creates a list of all the instances where I discussed my invention, grouped by idea space.  Then I can use that list as a sort of virtual table of contents to navigate to the instance I want to look at.  Later, if I add text somewhere with that discusses perpetual motion further, that reference is automatically added to the list I created.

Of course, the queries behind a list can be complex—see https://www.zengobi.com/curio/docs/25/search/#query-terms


Posted by MadaboutDana
Mar 15, 2023 at 09:59 AM


Interesting. I keep being tempted to return to Curio, then backing off again.

But having been rather disappointed by Agenda’s latest update (yes, it does now do multiple windows, but hey), I might give Curio yet another look…



Posted by satis
Mar 15, 2023 at 02:41 PM


I’ve got about a month of premium-unlock left on my year’s Agenda subscription, and at this point I doubt I’ll resubscribe (unless StackSocial or someone offers a good discount). I find Agenda can be a good replacement for some things I do but it would just mean moving to it from another specialized app, which is a wash.

It has improved a lot, but it has SO much competition that I’m not sure it’s an app I want to pour my files and depend on for the medium-term.


Posted by MadaboutDana
Mar 15, 2023 at 05:10 PM


I totally agree – with competitors like Obsidian around (including appropriate calendar plugins!) or indeed Craft (to which I already subscribe), not to mention NotePlan (although the latter’s pricing has made it quite unsuitable for me), I honestly don’t think Agenda brings enough real novelty to the table. Also, in practical use the aesthetic, while at first sight elegant, starts to get on my nerves…  ;-)


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