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Posted by kjxymzy
Feb 12, 2018 at 11:27 PM

 

I love Bear. It has one of the best Markdown editor out there, but doesn’t much int he way of structuring/organizing notes hierarchically (the nested tags get clumsy fast). This lead to CRIMPing whenever I wanted to organize my notes visually or in a hierarchical manner.

I love Workflowy, and iThoughtsX, but their weak Markdown editing (you can get some MD capabilities in Workfloy w/ Chrome plugins) capabilities leave a lot of be desired. This lead to CRIMPing whenever the lack of MD features caused frustrations while editing nodes/notes.

To solve this, I split Bear and Workflowy/iThoughtsX on a single screen and just linked between the two. I org ideas w/ short headers in Workflowy/iThoughtsX and link to notes/details in Bear. It has worked almost seamlessly and has killed lots of frustration/CRIMPing w/o being too clunky.

I strongly recommend the MM/outliner + Bear combo on Mac!

Any simple software combinations like this that have cured some major CRIMPing for you?

 


Posted by Paul Korm
Feb 13, 2018 at 12:32 PM

 

Great use case—thanks for sharing.  I pretty much avoid software these days that does not support item links (custom URLs) that allow directly linking between a note / task / document / whatever from one application to another.  I’m regularly cross-linking DEVONthink / Curio / OmniFocus and other applications.  Nothing should exist as an island, IMO.

kjxymzy wrote:

>Any simple software combinations like this that have cured some major
>CRIMPing for you?

 


Posted by Dellu
Feb 13, 2018 at 02:26 PM

 

I don’t like links.

My experience is Links are fragile objects. They don’t persist a couple of years. If I want to replace one of those applications with another application, the links break.

My preference is to assign tags on individual notes (intext tags; or Mavericks tags)—-and, then connect those notes with the same tag by some means (the Search in Devonthink) or Agents.

 

 


Posted by kjxymzy
Feb 13, 2018 at 07:37 PM

 

Agree. This is a risk.

I’d love to implement a tagging scheme like you mention, but I know myself well enough to recognize I would stop doing it in a few days.

Though I’m willing to take the risk because my my coding skills are sophisticated enough that if the links were ever to break, it would probably be a half day project to *link* everything back up or automate an ad hoc tagging scheme.

Dellu wrote:
I don’t like links.
> > My experience is Links are fragile objects. They don’t persist a couple
>of years. If I want to replace one of those applications with another
>application, the links break.
> >My preference is to assign tags on individual notes (intext tags; or
>Mavericks tags)—-and, then connect those notes with the same tag by
>some means (the Search in Devonthink) or Agents.
> >
>

 


Posted by dan7000
Feb 13, 2018 at 09:10 PM

 

>Dellu wrote:
>I don’t like links.
>>
>> My experience is Links are fragile objects. They don’t persist a
>couple
>>of years. If I want to replace one of those applications with another
>>application, the links break.
>>
>>My preference is to assign tags on individual notes (intext tags; or
>>Mavericks tags)—-and, then connect those notes with the same tag by
>>some means (the Search in Devonthink) or Agents.
>>


One scheme I use daily that works kind of like the tag-matching you mention is the interface between Cloze CRM and Evernote. Cloze is like a contact manager that lets you see all of your recent interactions with a person or within a project (basically a group of people) in one list. I like it better than alternatives because it shows my phone calls and text messages as well as emails.

It also shows relevant Evernote notes for a person or project. So if I click on “Joe Schmoe”, I get a list of all my calls, emails, meetings, texts to Joe as well as every EN note that has the phrase “Joe Schmoe” in it. It seems to be smart enough to include “Tom” for “Thomas,” etc. It does a shockingly good job. I have been really surprised at how well it does at finding my EN notes for each person. This is no mean feat as I have 9,700 EN notes and many are quite long and include big PDFs with indexed contents. I emailed with the developer and they said they do an overnight index of the EN database every night. (Yeah, I know, privacy concerns, etc.). Presumably they have a way to only process recent changes instead of the whole thing every night.

One cool thing about this that 1) I’ve put absolutely no effort into it, except making sure to spell people’s names right in EN. and 2) Cloze could implement the same thing with Simplenote, Ginkgo, or other solutions if EN goes away.

Regarding the topic of the original post: have you tried Ginkgo? It has outlining with excellent MD support.

 


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