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Posted by kjxymzy
Feb 13, 2018 at 09:43 PM


Yeah. It is wonderful when apps work together without much friction. I have a custom CRM in Airtable, so I might explore linking from there to Bear (there might also be a solid way to link to a search like you noted w/ Evernote versus direct linking to a specific note.

On Gingko:

Yes! Love Gingko. I tried using it for notes, but I do a lot of notes for coding, and the lack of syntax highlighting and regular highlighting got in the way of my workflow. Also, the cards are too small for code without line wrapping. Still use it for journaling and non-trivial writing output. It is one of the few apps where you can do outlining/writing in one place without much friction. It has been hard to actually write in most mind maps/outliners software I have tried, as paragraphs/snippets as nodes (versus headers/short text as nodes) feel heavy to me.

Now that I have started linking, I could perhaps try using it for high level notes with Bear holding low level details.

dan7000 wrote:

>>Dellu wrote:
>>I don’t like links.
>>> My experience is Links are fragile objects. They don’t persist a
>>>of years. If I want to replace one of those applications with another
>>>application, the links break.
>>>My preference is to assign tags on individual notes (intext tags; or
>>>Mavericks tags)—-and, then connect those notes with the same tag by
>>>some means (the Search in Devonthink) or Agents.
> >
>One scheme I use daily that works kind of like the tag-matching you
>mention is the interface between Cloze CRM and Evernote. Cloze is like a
>contact manager that lets you see all of your recent interactions with a
>person or within a project (basically a group of people) in one list. I
>like it better than alternatives because it shows my phone calls and
>text messages as well as emails.
> >It also shows relevant Evernote notes for a person or project. So if I
>click on “Joe Schmoe”, I get a list of all my calls, emails, meetings,
>texts to Joe as well as every EN note that has the phrase “Joe Schmoe”
>in it. It seems to be smart enough to include “Tom” for “Thomas,” etc.
>It does a shockingly good job. I have been really surprised at how well
>it does at finding my EN notes for each person. This is no mean feat as
>I have 9,700 EN notes and many are quite long and include big PDFs with
>indexed contents. I emailed with the developer and they said they do an
>overnight index of the EN database every night. (Yeah, I know, privacy
>concerns, etc.). Presumably they have a way to only process recent
>changes instead of the whole thing every night.
> >One cool thing about this that 1) I’ve put absolutely no effort into it,
>except making sure to spell people’s names right in EN. and 2) Cloze
>could implement the same thing with Simplenote, Ginkgo, or other
>solutions if EN goes away.
> >Regarding the topic of the original post: have you tried Ginkgo? It has
>outlining with excellent MD support.


Posted by kjxymzy
Feb 13, 2018 at 10:19 PM



Just played with Gingko and Bear linking => quite powerful


Posted by Christian Tietze
Feb 27, 2018 at 03:35 PM


Instead of the fragile URL schemes like someapp://link-to-note/, I assign an ID to everything of value, like 201802271633 (for 16:33 today), optionally with precision to the second. These go into the file name of notes. If in doubt, you can fire up Spotlight to search for them manually. More convenient are apps that support linking items by name, so that the ID is part of a clickable link with the app’s URL scheme. Then you have the best of both worlds: a link to click on for speed and convenience, and the ID for longevity should you decide to switch apps.



Posted by Paul Korm
Feb 27, 2018 at 03:45 PM


YMMV, of course.  Over here, most of the links I use are x-devonthink-item:// links that crank open databases, or groups, or specific documents.  Since I never throw anything important away, and DEVONthink is smart enough to open a database if it’s not currently open, I’ve managed to have robust links that have survived for 10 years. 

Christian’s approach is fine, but takes a lot of time.  (Though Keyboard Maestro could help with that.)  In a pinch, Houdah Spot or Find Any File are good supplements to vanilla Spotlight.

Dellu wrote:
I don’t like links.
> > My experience is Links are fragile objects.


Posted by MadaboutDana
Feb 28, 2018 at 10:26 AM


Having said that, it’s high time the whole file system interface in all “modern” OSes was upgraded, as I’ve been arguing for a long time.

You should, after all, just be able to start typing into something like Spotlight and instantly be given a list of files/e-mails/whatevers that match what your typing, ideally ranked according to relevance or with easy filters that can be instantly applied.

But Spotlight/Windows Search/Whatever already does that, you’ll cry!

No, they don’t, or they really don’t do it well.

Spotlight, for example, is better than it was (now with nice previews) – but why on earth can’t you enlarge the window? If you’re speedily leafing through file previews, you need a big window. The tiny little unchangeable windows it’s currently got just isn’t acceptable for preview, and of course there’s no built-in file management functionality - you have to open everything up in Finder if you want that. It’s not thought-through, so it’s nowhere near as useful as it should be. Grrrrrr.

Here’s my call to programmers: rise up, revolt against 1990s file systems! It’s time to rewrite the computer’s front end!


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