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Posted by MadaboutDana
May 13, 2022 at 07:36 AM

 

And if you want to stay with a OneNote-a-like model, it’s worth bearing Outline (macOS, iOS) in mind; it’s OneNote-compatible and has been quietly developing away in the background for quite a few years. It’s a much, much better app than it used to be, now with a proper search function.

The other, totally free and independent app worth mentioning is Growly Notes (macOS only), which is excellent; the developer is ex-Microsoft, and offers a wide range of free software on his website (https://growlybird.com). Growly Notes is basically a OneNote clone, and again, has been around for quite a while.

Neither of them does something which the desktop version of OneNote does still do, namely allow you to fold indented subparagraphs.

bartb wrote:
Microsoft is sucking everything up into the Cloud (u need to use
>OneDrive with OneNote) and OneNote files are in a propritary format and
>the export function kind of sucks. I loved OneNote but MS is going into
>a whole different direction. I’m thinking KeepIt in combination with
>DEVONthink might be more to my liking. As a side note I came across the
>following quote Gary Lang (Gary’s Newsletter): “Basically, think of
>OneNote as an OS, with OLE for live, embedded objects and tasks. People
>really want this, but only with a OneNote-like front end.”  Indeed! 
> >Thanks for the replies everyone! 

 


Posted by Bernhard
May 14, 2022 at 01:03 PM

 

Dellu wrote:
I am using Keep it 1 daily.
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>But, I think the rest of the features listed there are mere gimmick. I
>am already satisfied with KeepIt 1. I am not going to upgrade.
> >It is extremely good application. It works great with Devonthink.
>The reason I use Keep it besides DT is because DT is a huge mess; a
>jungle of stuff; that I have hard time to concentrate (focus) on the
>items that I am working on currently. I use it as a means to isolate the
>notes I want to focus right now.
> >

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I own Keep It 1 but never became familiar with it. Do you can give more information/examples (or links) about Keep It working together with Devonthink and why it is an extremely good application. Maybe I will give it another try. Thanks!

 


Posted by Dellu
May 14, 2022 at 03:06 PM

 

Bernhard wrote:

>I own Keep It 1 but never became familiar with it. Do you can give more
>information/examples (or links) about Keep It working together with
>Devonthink and why it is an extremely good application. Maybe I will
>give it another try. Thanks!
>

You need to look at where KeepIt stores its notes: it stores them : /Users/username/Library/Group Containers/D75L7R8266.com.reinvented.KeepIt/Keep It

- All the folders you are creating within the app are transparently created in that folder. You an index the “Files” folder in Devonthink. Any change you make DT will be reflected back to Keep it, and vise versa.

The reason why I like it better than the other apps is due to this transparency of the file storage: and seemless support for tft or rtfd format.

You also have Labels, Bundles, smart Searches (saved searches), tags and other organizational tools in there. You can create hyperlink between notes, if you are into that kind of stuff.

The search is also very efficient. For your personal notes, it is absolutely capable app. But, I never import or store Pdfs, even if I know it supports it. PDFs go to Devonthink.

- Another feature I like better in Keep it, than in DT is the floating feature. I open one window, floating, all day, to take my reading notes. I think and reflect on it; and send all or part of it to my drafts (if I am having a draft). If I don’t have a drat already, I will collect the reading notes within a bundle until I have sufficient ideas to put them into a draft.
- When ideas get complicated, I open Scapple to sketch them on the white board. Scapple boards can also be imported to KeepIt.


The great thing about Keep it (in contrast to Devonthink)  is it makes your notes visible. DT puts them into the jungle. You need a fine tuned system to make your notes stand out. Having no other source than the notes, KeepIt makes the notes very visible to you.  You read them, modify them, group them, tag them…..make them useful (put them to draft). That the whole point of collecting notes. Isn’t it? It is to be productive; to generate sth new to the world.

- I have been a user of Tinderbox for quite some time. But, I learned from my mistakes: I was sinking my timing tinkering with the app rather than being productive on my subject.

 


Posted by Bernhard
May 14, 2022 at 03:40 PM

 

Thank you very much Dellu! It seems I should revive Keep It and give it some more time to test.

 


Posted by Amontillado
May 14, 2022 at 05:48 PM

 

Dellu wrote:

>The great thing about Keep it (in contrast to Devonthink)  is it makes
>your notes visible. DT puts them into the jungle. You need a fine tuned
>system to make your notes stand out. Having no other source than the
>notes, KeepIt makes the notes very visible to you.  You read them,
>modify them, group them, tag them…..make them useful (put them to
>draft). That the whole point of collecting notes. Isn’t it? It is to be
>productive; to generate sth new to the world.

I don’t think DT operates so differently from Keepit. DT has a dour appearance, I get that, but I’m not sure DT puts things in a jungle.

For instance, when you double click on a group in DT, it either opens in a new window or just focuses on the group in the current window. You choose in the preferences. I like to keep “open groups in new window” turned off, because the right-click open function always opens in a new window.

A lot of times I turn off the sidebar and then double-click the group I want to focus on.

I think the main reason I tolerate DT’s Eeyore-ish appearance is nested tags. I get a lot of mileage out of tag hierarchies.

 


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