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Posted by satis
May 12, 2022 at 12:22 AM

 

Daly de Gagne wrote:
> Satis, I’m aware of Nathan Tardif’s politics, about which you and I
>would agree. However, I confess that I use Noodler’s inks, primarily the
>ones which are waterproof/eternal. Much as I love fountain pens, I am
>paranoid about damaging/losing notes due to water damage

I don’t know what colors you tend to use but for permanent black ink I enthusiastically recommend Platinum Carbon Black. It’s my primary black ink, permanent, and is not hard to clean out of my pens. At $25 for 60ml it’s not cheap but to me it’s about the best permanent black out there. YouTube’s AnInkGuy just reviewed it recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh9Bm_JpMU4

For a permanent dark-grey/black consider Monteverde Documental Black (they also make a Documental Blue). For other colors you might want to look at Platinum’s fairly recent line of Iron Gall inks, which are water resistant but not as permanent as the Carbon or Documental inks. I recently tried Platinum Cassis Black, which is actually a nice unsaturated Burgundy (which I successfully used for margin notes), and it worked well with the steel nib pen I put it in, and with my usual Rhodia and Kokuyo notepads. Nice overview here:

https://mountainofink.com/blog/platinum-cassis-black

FYI I just visited Reddit’s fountain pen forum and was shocked to learn that Tardif just put his foot in it again, this time raising such a row among our little community that he had to apologize for ink labels which put horns on Jewish people on his in bottles, like this one for Bernake Red!

https://i.redd.it/rkz509kffjy81.jpg

Seems he’d also made another ink whose label featured former Federal Reserve Chairs Volcker, Bernanke, and Greenspan, placing a halo over Volcker’s Christian head and horns on the other two Jewish men.

If anyone is unfamiliar with the antisemitic nature of the ‘horns of Moses’:

https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-cohn/the-horns-of-mosesold-symbols-and-new-meanings/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42944790

I’d long ago given up on considering purchasing Noodlers so I hadn’t paid any attention to this until today. But apparently community displeasure had been brewing for months and Tardif made a public apology only after Brian Goulet announced earlier today that he’s “halted” sales of the 100+ Noodlers products he sells. (Given their personal and professional dealings I lamentably expect sales to resume once all ink bottles get relabeled.)

 


Posted by Amontillado
May 12, 2022 at 05:18 AM

 

satis wrote:

>FYI I just visited Reddit’s fountain pen forum and was shocked to learn
>that Tardif just put his foot in it again

What a shame. Did you know Isaac Newton’s personal recipe for iron gall ink survives in his notes, written in his hand with his homegrown ink? He changed science with quill, ink of his own concoction, and genius.

Others, of course, have employed pen and ink for less noble pursuits.

 


Posted by MadaboutDana
May 12, 2022 at 08:34 AM

 

Heh, I mention Neal Stephenson’s “Baroque Cycle” once again simply because Newton is one of the major characters in it – as are a number of leading 17th century geniuses, including the astonishing (but much underrated) Robert Hooke, as well as Gottfried (von) Leibniz.

Stephenson does an amazing job of conveying their brilliance – and specifically mentions the fact that Newton mixes and uses his own inks (just like Leonardo da Vinci, who had, however, rather less success, judging by the fading of his most famous paintings). He also does a great job of showing the overlaps between alchemy, natural science and philosophy (or rather, how in those days they were all much the same thing, but gradually drifted apart).

He also does a great job of reminding us how multilingual these people all were (Latin, English, French, German, Italian, all more or less as a matter of course, certainly among the aristocracy, but even amongst the middle-class).

Cheers!
Bill

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
May 12, 2022 at 03:53 PM

 

By chance, I found in Anne-Laure Le Cunff’s Maker Mind email post today this reference to Maggie Appelton writing on the importance of the daily note.

https://maggieappleton.com/daily-notes

Daily notes in written form have been with us for a long time long time, but in programs such as Obsidian and Logseq take on a new life. Appelton’s post is worth a read.

Daly

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
May 12, 2022 at 05:09 PM

 

Satis, thanks for the information.  I did not realize the antisemitic aspects of Tardif’s politics and labeling.

When today did Brian Goulet announce he was stopping Noodler’s sales? I checked his site after reading your post, but could find no reference to it.

The horns are shocking!  I have no tolerance for antisemitism and other forms of ethnic/racial prejudice.

I will be buying other brands of ink when I visit Wonder Pens next month. I appreciate your giving examples of water resistant inks. I need to find substitutes for Baystate Blue, Lexington Grey, Legal Lapis, and Hunter’s Green, so suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Daly

satis wrote:

>
>Daly de Gagne wrote:
>> Satis, I’m aware of Nathan Tardif’s politics, about which you and I
>>would agree. However, I confess that I use Noodler’s inks, primarily
>the
>>ones which are waterproof/eternal. Much as I love fountain pens, I am
>>paranoid about damaging/losing notes due to water damage
> >I don’t know what colors you tend to use but for permanent black ink I
>enthusiastically recommend Platinum Carbon Black. It’s my primary black
>ink, permanent, and is not hard to clean out of my pens. At $25 for 60ml
>it’s not cheap but to me it’s about the best permanent black out there.
>YouTube’s AnInkGuy just reviewed it recently.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh9Bm_JpMU4
> >For a permanent dark-grey/black consider Monteverde Documental Black
>(they also make a Documental Blue). For other colors you might want to
>look at Platinum’s fairly recent line of Iron Gall inks, which are water
>resistant but not as permanent as the Carbon or Documental inks. I
>recently tried Platinum Cassis Black, which is actually a nice
>unsaturated Burgundy (which I successfully used for margin notes), and
>it worked well with the steel nib pen I put it in, and with my usual
>Rhodia and Kokuyo notepads. Nice overview here:
> >https://mountainofink.com/blog/platinum-cassis-black
> >FYI I just visited Reddit’s fountain pen forum and was shocked to learn
>that Tardif just put his foot in it again, this time raising such a row
>among our little community that he had to apologize for ink labels which
>put horns on Jewish people on his in bottles, like this one for Bernake
>Red!
> >https://i.redd.it/rkz509kffjy81.jpg
> >Seems he’d also made another ink whose label featured former Federal
>Reserve Chairs Volcker, Bernanke, and Greenspan, placing a halo over
>Volcker’s Christian head and horns on the other two Jewish men.
> >If anyone is unfamiliar with the antisemitic nature of the ‘horns of
>Moses’:
> >https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-cohn/the-horns-of-mosesold-symbols-and-new-meanings/
>https://www.jstor.org/stable/42944790
> >I’d long ago given up on considering purchasing Noodlers so I hadn’t
>paid any attention to this until today. But apparently community
>displeasure had been brewing for months and Tardif made a public apology
>only after Brian Goulet announced earlier today that he’s “halted” sales
>of the 100+ Noodlers products he sells. (Given their personal and
>professional dealings I lamentably expect sales to resume once all ink
>bottles get relabeled.)
> >

 


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