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Posted by MadaboutDana
Sep 6, 2020 at 08:33 AM

 

Do take a look at x3Note, which is on both the Mac App and App Stores. It’s capable of emulating Workflowy and Dynalist, although there are still some rough edges. It also has a good go at being a NotePlan alternative. It doesn’t do Roam yet, but if the developer keeps at it, maybe that could be on the roadmap.

Cheers,
Bill

Luhmann wrote:
Thanks Dr Andus. One of the reasons I made this list is a lot of the
>lists I see are of apps that don’t really accomplish any of the things
>you mention in your post. These don’t necessarily accomplish all of them
>(they have their own visions), but they come the closest to capturing
>what makes Roam work.
> >What is missing from the list, for my personal preferences, is a true
>Apple-native solution that supports MacOS and iOS. But then there isn’t
>even an app in that ecosystem that comes close to Workflowy or Dynalist.
>(Outlinely looked hopeful for a while, but development was too erratic.)
>I really think it is a shame that all these apps are primarily web apps,
>because I still prefer the native app experience - even if the
>difference is getting smaller. I blame Apple’s awful App Store policies
>...

 


Posted by Luhmann
Sep 6, 2020 at 12:29 PM

 

Being in the App Store doesn’t mean it’s a native app. Workflowy and Dynalist both have apps, but the experience is not as nice as a true native app like Bear… Many of these are electron apps,  which doesn’t give the same experience as tools built natively for Apple.

 


Posted by Franz Grieser
Sep 6, 2020 at 04:58 PM

 

Interesting post by a user who loves Roam but is a frustrated because new features are added, while annoying quirks don’t get fixed.

https://medium.com/@catominor3/quo-vadis-roamresearch-delta-or-beta-4c598d463e86

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Sep 6, 2020 at 11:24 PM

 

Franz Grieser wrote:
Interesting post by a user who loves Roam but is a frustrated because
>new features are added, while annoying quirks don’t get fixed.
> >https://medium.com/@catominor3/quo-vadis-roamresearch-delta-or-beta-4c598d463e86

Yes, I think that’s a generally recognised problem with Roam.

But to be fair Roam never claimed to have exited the beta stage. My understanding is that they turned on the payment option to be able to service the huge number of beta users who wanted to sign up.

So now they are in this weird situation that paying customers who who were happy to pay to get access to the beta are now demanding a non-beta product.

There is probably some kind of a lesson there about how to manage the beta stage.

On the other hand it’s a nice problem to have for a software developer to have thousands of people begging you to take their money for an unfinished product…

 


Posted by Franz Grieser
Sep 7, 2020 at 07:00 AM

 

Dr Andus wrote:

>On the other hand it’s a nice problem to have for a software developer
>to have thousands of people begging you to take their money for an
>unfinished product…

:-)

Nevertheless, I’ll wait for a desktop version. In the meantime, I’ll give Obsidian a try.

 


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