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Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 16, 2021 at 12:12 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions, will check them out.
I forgot to mention that although I want to be able to use the Roam alternative online, it’s important for me to be able to either host the files on Google Drive or have an automatic daily export of human readible text files to Google Drive (such as Dynalist does). I’d prefer not to have to subscribe to Dropbox or OneDrive. I do have a Box account with quite a bit of capacity that I haven’t found a use for, so I could use that too.
I’d like something as similar to Roam as possible in terms of the automatic daily page, the transclusion of individual blocks, the automatic backlinks, the functionality of the panes, so I can reconstruct the exact same task management system I’ve developed for myself in Roam.
Logseq does look extremely similar, but I was wondering whether it’s possible to just save the files straight into Google Drive and operate it from there, while using Logseq as the interface in a browser from across multiple computers (I switch between Chromebooks and a Windows laptop all the day long, and so I like to manage my todos from Roam in the browser of whichever machine I’m on).
Thanks again.
Posted by Luhmann
Oct 18, 2021 at 12:41 PM
I switched from Roam to Logseq about six months ago and never regretted my decision, however I don’t think it will be right for you. There are two versions of Logseq: a browser based version and a desktop version. The browser based version stores files in Github and is being depreciated in favor of the desktop version which stores files in local storage. So while you can use OneDrive for the desktop version, it does not run in the browser. The only workaround would be to use Github to sync your GoogleDrive folder to github and use the browser based version. There are scripts for this, and the browser based version still works (for now), but might be less than ideal for you.
Dr Andus wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, will check them out.
>
>I forgot to mention that although I want to be able to use the Roam
>alternative online, it’s important for me to be able to either host the
>files on Google Drive or have an automatic daily export of human
>readible text files to Google Drive (such as Dynalist does). I’d prefer
>not to have to subscribe to Dropbox or OneDrive. I do have a Box account
>with quite a bit of capacity that I haven’t found a use for, so I could
>use that too.
>
>I’d like something as similar to Roam as possible in terms of the
>automatic daily page, the transclusion of individual blocks, the
>automatic backlinks, the functionality of the panes, so I can
>reconstruct the exact same task management system I’ve developed for
>myself in Roam.
>
>Logseq does look extremely similar, but I was wondering whether it’s
>possible to just save the files straight into Google Drive and operate
>it from there, while using Logseq as the interface in a browser from
>across multiple computers (I switch between Chromebooks and a Windows
>laptop all the day long, and so I like to manage my todos from Roam in
>the browser of whichever machine I’m on).
>
>Thanks again.
>
>
Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 18, 2021 at 04:13 PM
Luhmann wrote:
I switched from Roam to Logseq about six months ago and never regretted
>my decision, however I don’t think it will be right for you. There are
>two versions of Logseq: a browser based version and a desktop version.
>The browser based version stores files in Github and is being
>depreciated in favor of the desktop version which stores files in local
>storage. So while you can use OneDrive for the desktop version, it does
>not run in the browser. The only workaround would be to use Github to
>sync your GoogleDrive folder to github and use the browser based
>version. There are scripts for this, and the browser based version still
>works (for now), but might be less than ideal for you.
@Luhmann
Many thanks for your input. Yes, this is the kind of thing I was wondering about.
From their About page I see that they say “Currently, we only support syncing through Github, more options (e.g. Gitlab, Dropbox, Google Drive, WebDAV, etc.) will be added soon.” https://logseq.com/blog/about
If this is where it’s heading, then I’d be willing to wait for these sync options.
I saw people on Youtube discussing the Github option, but it’s not clear to me whether the sync is automatic or one needs to remember to push or pull changes, and I also saw someone saying that sync conflicts will definitely happen, which is not something I’d want to have to deal with.
Can you paste images as easily into Logseq as one can do in Roam, WorkFlowy and Dynalist these days? That would be another consideration, though could live without it (and use some kind of other hosting option for images).
Otherwise Logseq looks very good, almost perfect for what I’m looking for.
Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 18, 2021 at 04:20 PM
Jerome wrote:
>Hi Dr Andus, I am in a very similar situation and I am currently
>experimenting with logseq using the web UI at https://logseq.com
>connected to a private Github repo.
Hello Jerome,
I’d be interested in hearing more about your experience using Github. Have you been able to sync across multiple computers? Is it manual or automatic?
I don’t know much about Github, so I’d have to educate myself from scratch, which it a bit of a disincentive (I did set up an account once, wanting to use it for plaintext blogging, but I never found the time to get it going).
Posted by Luhmann
Oct 19, 2021 at 04:50 AM
I personally use the desktop version with iCloud sync, so I’m not sure I can answer your questions. I think the web page might be a bit out of date. (Development is happening so fast.) You might want to join the Logseq discord channel (linked from their homepage), as there are definitely people with similar workflows there that can help you.
I don’t use many images, but when I have it seems fairly easy.
Dr Andus wrote:
Luhmann wrote:
>I switched from Roam to Logseq about six months ago and never regretted
>>my decision, however I don’t think it will be right for you. There are
>>two versions of Logseq: a browser based version and a desktop version.
>>The browser based version stores files in Github and is being
>>depreciated in favor of the desktop version which stores files in local
>>storage. So while you can use OneDrive for the desktop version, it does
>>not run in the browser. The only workaround would be to use Github to
>>sync your GoogleDrive folder to github and use the browser based
>>version. There are scripts for this, and the browser based version
>still
>>works (for now), but might be less than ideal for you.
>
>@Luhmann
>
>Many thanks for your input. Yes, this is the kind of thing I was
>wondering about.
>
>From their About page I see that they say “Currently, we only support
>syncing through Github, more options (e.g. Gitlab, Dropbox, Google
>Drive, WebDAV, etc.) will be added soon.” https://logseq.com/blog/about
>
>If this is where it’s heading, then I’d be willing to wait for these
>sync options.
>
>I saw people on Youtube discussing the Github option, but it’s not clear
>to me whether the sync is automatic or one needs to remember to push or
>pull changes, and I also saw someone saying that sync conflicts will
>definitely happen, which is not something I’d want to have to deal with.
>
>Can you paste images as easily into Logseq as one can do in Roam,
>WorkFlowy and Dynalist these days? That would be another consideration,
>though could live without it (and use some kind of other hosting option
>for images).
>
>Otherwise Logseq looks very good, almost perfect for what I’m looking
>for.