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Posted by Amontillado
Feb 3, 2020 at 03:28 PM


Amontillado wrote:
>... or shift-enter to
>start a top above the current entry…

I think he meant, “...or start a topic above the current entry…”

He’s probably entering his dotage. I say we should forgive him the occasional typo.


Posted by steve-rogers
Feb 3, 2020 at 03:38 PM


I have maintained active licenses for OmniOutliner since the days it came pre-installed on Macs. I used it regularly for many years but recently came to the realization that: 1) I use the software to outline documents for export to other software (Word, Pages) and I am not making use of the extensive formatting offered with OO. In fact, the formatting palette and options are more of a hindrance than a help. 2) I’m not using the automation available with OO. I just purchased Outlinely last week and have been happy with it so far.

In my opinion, if you’re not using the Applescript/Javascript engine and you’re not making your documents beautiful with all of the formatting available in OO, then it’s difficult to justify the (IMO) rather steep price.


Posted by satis
Feb 3, 2020 at 04:07 PM


Outlinely has been on my radar for a couple of years, as I like the way they reimplemented the look of Dynalist in a Mac/iOS app whose data I control. I’m not fully on-board with it because it seems to pretty much be on life-support itself, barely updated aside from a small flurry of updates in the summer of 2018.

I’m currently defaulting to OmniOutliner on the Mac, but for cross-platform sharing I use Cloud Outliner Pro, whose Mac/iOS apps I picked up for a song a couple of years ago. It’s pretty basic and I do not enjoy the limited fonts and color options but it’s solid.

I wish TaskPaper were more powerful.

I wish NeO had more bugfixes and had an iOS component.

I miss Tree on the Mac very much. (Especially since Gingko seems pretty much to have imploded right after splitting into stagnant separate online subscription and desktop app offerings.)

For Mac/iOS cross-platform, the main players seem to be OmniOutliner ($150 for both apps), Outlinely ($72 for lifetime subscription), Cloud Outliner Pro (just $13 total), and TaskPaper + Taskmator/Taskmator ($30-ish, though the Mac app is also part of the SetApp subscription).


Posted by Bob Spies
Feb 3, 2020 at 10:35 PM


@MadaboutDana, are you using the latest OmniOutliner version? I don’t find it slow at all.

And @steve-rogers, when you refer to its “rather steep price”—if you don’t need automation, it costs $20.



Posted by steve-rogers
Feb 4, 2020 at 01:06 AM


That’s a good point. OmniOutliner Essential is ten bucks. Essential lacks other functionality besides formatting and automation, such as text folding, but it is a functional product. Wish I had examined my needs more carefully before spending money on the Pro version.


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