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The dreaded Catalina (OSX users...sorry) But anyone can read, of course

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Posted by NickG
Oct 31, 2019 at 02:10 PM


Franz Grieser wrote:

>Well, he wrote “64 bits (so, should be ok…”. Does that answer your

Yes, thanks - somehow my eyes completely missed that (somewhat critical) line!


Posted by Jeffery Smith
Oct 31, 2019 at 04:01 PM


If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn’t have installed Catalina on my office Mac (I didn’t on any other Macs). The revised iTunes (now called Music) doesn’t seem to be compatible with iPods (I have three), and doesn’t work with some of my audio editing apps. In the past, Apple was pretty good about having OSX upgrades that didn’t disrupt my status quo. I have picked up about 80gb on my work Mac due to uninstalling anything that seems to not be compatible with Catalina yet. Agenda, Tinderbox, Omni products all seem okay.


Posted by Lothar Scholz
Nov 1, 2019 at 07:28 AM


Listerene wrote:
The interesting thing is that they didn’t *have* to do kill 32-bit apps;
>Windows hasn’t and probably never will. Apple did it because, you know,

Microsoft does not get 30% on all upgrade purchases.
Thats why you wont find any Apple systems in government agencies.


Posted by Paul Korm
Nov 1, 2019 at 11:01 AM


Not universally true.  The US gov’t agencies where I’ve consulted all permit Apple computers, albeit Windows dominates because Office.  Almost all use Apple phones and iPads.  Microsoft is no angel when it comes to software fees.

Lothar Scholz wrote:
>Microsoft does not get 30% on all upgrade purchases.
>Thats why you wont find any Apple systems in government agencies.


Posted by Listerene
Nov 1, 2019 at 04:16 PM


Microsoft might not be an “angel” but they don’t go out of their way to screw their users and, yes, Apple’s denying OS upgrades to older machines and the 32-bit apocalypse says that Apple DOES go out of its way to screw its users.

Got a 2011 Windows machine loaded with 32-bit apps? No problem, says the latest version of Windows 10.

Got a 2011 mac with 32-bit apps? You’re out of luck, my friend, and you’ll have to get along with an unsupported OS OR—and this is what Apple wants—give Apple a bunch of money for a new machine ... while finding replacements for the 32-bit apps.

Don’t try to conflate MS & Apple on this because they are not equal, at all.


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