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Posted by satis
Jun 17, 2019 at 12:31 AM

 

Graham Rhind wrote:

>> personal attacks, insults, or profanity, which none of us
>> want to see
> >Which really epitomises the problem because we’re different people from
>different cultures with different expectations and with different
>linguistic abilities. Personally, I couldn’t give a flying f*** how much
>profanity gets flung around, but that’s me personally

If curbing personal attacks, insults and profanity is a problem, let the problem commence.

 


Posted by jaslar
Jun 17, 2019 at 04:11 AM

 

For many years, I worked in the area of “intellectual freedom,” mainly in public libraries. In the USA, this refers to the Constitution’s First Amendment right to speak freely. I believe that.

I also embrace my Millennial daughter’s comment that “I’m not opposed to free speech. I just think we need more free speech worth listening to.”

On the internet, we also have the right to say what we feel or think. Yet a lot of what people say is devastatingly dull or dumb or deliberately offensive. How then should we respond?

I can’t speak for others. But I strive to be kind, to be clear, to offer insight and encouragement. I frankly don’t have the skills to program the software I want to use. I sure appreciate it when someone else offers an attempt. That doesn’t mean that I have to give them a pass on things that don’t work. But I begin with an attitude of gratitude. I offer critiques to *encourage* them to improve their work, to our mutual benefit.

Thus far, outlinersoftware.com has been one of the more civil spaces on the web. Let’s keep talking about ideas, and not about personalities we may or may not understand.

This is a community. Communities are based on mutually nurturing relationships.

 


Posted by Luhmann
Jun 18, 2019 at 06:26 AM

 

Thanks Chris for maintaining this forum. I came to this forum initially because I was frustrated at the lack of decent cross platform (meaning mac desktop and iPhone) outlining software that met my needs. Now, several years later, Dynalist (while far from perfect) mostly meets my needs. That means I am much less active here than I was in the past. Nonetheless, I have come to value this forum during that time and like to check in semi-regularly, precisely for some of the reasons already mentioned in this thread. I don’t really know what caused this thread to be written, but I have found the discussions here to be informative and relatively free of acrimony. That is more than one can say of much of the internet these days.

 


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