Dokuwiki as Connected Text Replacement
Started by JDS
on 1/1/2019
JDS
1/1/2019 4:54 pm
I have started to work on developing Dokuwiki as a replacement for CT. Prior postings have discussed using Namespaces and Tags as the near equivalents to Categories. I have not seen anything on the topic of potential substitutes for Properties/Attributes.The closest I have found to date is the Struct plugin, which I think will do the job quite well. However, if others have alternatives, I would love to hear about them. The list of plugins is enormous, and the description are often vague, to say the least.
All in all, though, I have been pleasantly surprised by Dokuwiki, and ability to use it cross platform more than makes up for the fact that an exact replication of CT is not possible.
All in all, though, I have been pleasantly surprised by Dokuwiki, and ability to use it cross platform more than makes up for the fact that an exact replication of CT is not possible.
Dr Andus
1/1/2019 5:49 pm
Thank you for this. Please do keep sharing your experience, as I'm thinking of doing the same, probably later this week.
I've been procrastinating on this but I've come to the realisation that having my notes database in Windows only is holding me back.
It sounds to me like Namespaces are more equivalent to "Projects" in CT, in the sense that they can be used to keep big domains separate (such as e.g. personal notes vs. reading notes vs. work-related notes etc.).
I was hoping that Tags would act as CT categories (but I haven't actually seen what those look like in reality).
The Struct plugin sounds interesting, but you're right, it's not easy from the plugin descriptions to work out what they actually do.
I've been procrastinating on this but I've come to the realisation that having my notes database in Windows only is holding me back.
It sounds to me like Namespaces are more equivalent to "Projects" in CT, in the sense that they can be used to keep big domains separate (such as e.g. personal notes vs. reading notes vs. work-related notes etc.).
I was hoping that Tags would act as CT categories (but I haven't actually seen what those look like in reality).
The Struct plugin sounds interesting, but you're right, it's not easy from the plugin descriptions to work out what they actually do.
JDS
1/1/2019 7:20 pm
I am far from an expert, but the documentation refers to Namespaces as similar to folders. They can have a hierarchical structure. So, by creating a page with the structure namespace1:namespace2: pagename (each separated by a colon), there is a hierarchical structure created, with Namespace1 at the top of the tree, pagename at the bottom.. So, I don't think they are exactly like projects in CT, nor like categories. Tags are like any other tagging system. Between the two, though, I think one can replicate a system that will cover categories in CT.
Christian Tietze
1/7/2019 6:12 pm
@Dr Andus: Why the wish to switch? Is it coincidence that you and @JDS want to transition at the same time, or did something break in ConnectedText?
Dr Andus
1/7/2019 10:48 pm
Christian Tietze wrote:
No, ConnectedText works perfectly for me, nothing wrong with it at all.
The only limitation is that it is a Windows app, and my Windows laptop is big and heavy and noisy, and I prefer to use my Chromebooks for reading and research, especially when I'm mobile.
It's just frustrating when I'd want to look up a note on CT but my Windows laptop is not with me. And I don't really want to buy another Windows machine (or a Mac).
I've tried remoting into my Windows laptop, but not all networks allow it, and it's not smooth. I've also looked into installing CT on some kind of virtual online Windows machine, but there were either some practical or cost limitations.
Basically I'm transitioning to the cloud, as most of my favourite apps now are online, and I like the Chromebook concept.
Obviously the ideal solution would be to have an online version of CT, but since that doesn't exist, Dokuwiki sounds like the closest thing to it (hosted on a server).
@Dr Andus: Why the wish to switch? Is it coincidence that you and @JDS
want to transition at the same time, or did something break in
ConnectedText?
No, ConnectedText works perfectly for me, nothing wrong with it at all.
The only limitation is that it is a Windows app, and my Windows laptop is big and heavy and noisy, and I prefer to use my Chromebooks for reading and research, especially when I'm mobile.
It's just frustrating when I'd want to look up a note on CT but my Windows laptop is not with me. And I don't really want to buy another Windows machine (or a Mac).
I've tried remoting into my Windows laptop, but not all networks allow it, and it's not smooth. I've also looked into installing CT on some kind of virtual online Windows machine, but there were either some practical or cost limitations.
Basically I'm transitioning to the cloud, as most of my favourite apps now are online, and I like the Chromebook concept.
Obviously the ideal solution would be to have an online version of CT, but since that doesn't exist, Dokuwiki sounds like the closest thing to it (hosted on a server).
washere
1/9/2019 2:33 pm
Last year when caught up for a few months in Chromebook fever, I realized I did not need a modern Windows ultrabook to do most tasks.
Didn't take me long to realize saving a ton of money on NOT buying a top of the range tiny modern Windows Ultrabook, would in fact cost me a fortune even in short to medium range.
Didn't take me long to realize saving a ton of money on NOT buying a top of the range tiny modern Windows Ultrabook, would in fact cost me a fortune even in short to medium range.
MadaboutDana
1/9/2019 8:17 pm
Perfectly true, especially since you can install Linux on most modern Chromebooks. And then you could run Dokuwiki as a private app off e.g. an SD card (it doesn't take up a lot of space compared to many modern apps). Ideally, of course, you run Dokuwiki online on your own server. You can set up Dokuwiki on 1&1, for example, in about 30 seconds...
washere wrote:
washere wrote:
Last year when caught up for a few months in Chromebook fever, I
realized I did not need a modern Windows ultrabook to do most tasks.
Didn't take me long to realize saving a ton of money on NOT buying a top
of the range tiny modern Windows Ultrabook, would in fact cost me a
fortune even in short to medium range.
washere
1/10/2019 7:26 am
Yes Linux runs well on Chromebook and also surprisingly well with MS WSL on Windows. My second virtual desktop runs Linux apps plus a Linux desktop gui very well too.
Server-wise, Wamp64 makes any good laptop a decent development server too, most online content is developed that way then uploaded.
Wiki-wise, Dokuwiki seems to be rising to the top amongst other wiki contenders. This you can determine by the increasing number of plugins. But also templates for different theme styles.
MadaboutDana wrote:
Server-wise, Wamp64 makes any good laptop a decent development server too, most online content is developed that way then uploaded.
Wiki-wise, Dokuwiki seems to be rising to the top amongst other wiki contenders. This you can determine by the increasing number of plugins. But also templates for different theme styles.
MadaboutDana wrote:
Perfectly true, especially since you can install Linux on most modern
Chromebooks. And then you could run Dokuwiki as a private app off e.g.
an SD card (it doesn't take up a lot of space compared to many modern
apps). Ideally, of course, you run Dokuwiki online on your own server.
You can set up Dokuwiki on 1&1, for example, in about 30 seconds...
washere wrote:
Last year when caught up for a few months in Chromebook fever, I
>realized I did not need a modern Windows ultrabook to do most tasks.
>
>Didn't take me long to realize saving a ton of money on NOT buying a
top
>of the range tiny modern Windows Ultrabook, would in fact cost me a
>fortune even in short to medium range.
Dr Andus
1/10/2019 10:41 am
While that's all true about the possibility of installing Linux and running Dokuwiki locally on a Chromebook, to me the opposite is the main attraction, i.e. running Dokuwiki from a hosting company's server so that I don't need to worry about any of the technical aspects of installation, maintenance, backups etc. and can access Dokuwiki via a web browser from any of my devices, including Chromebooks.
I'm seriously thinking about moving all my locally stored files to Google Drive, and switching from a local EndNote database to Paperpile (which has a referencing plug-in for Google Doc), so that I could work seamlessly online, and be able to link reading notes etc. from Dokuwiki to PDFs and other docs stored on Google Drive.
It will result in new subscription payments (hosting, backup, Google Drive, Paperpile), but I may never have to buy another high-end Windows laptop again, or any expensive Windows software. My CRIMPing is moving to the cloud...
I'm seriously thinking about moving all my locally stored files to Google Drive, and switching from a local EndNote database to Paperpile (which has a referencing plug-in for Google Doc), so that I could work seamlessly online, and be able to link reading notes etc. from Dokuwiki to PDFs and other docs stored on Google Drive.
It will result in new subscription payments (hosting, backup, Google Drive, Paperpile), but I may never have to buy another high-end Windows laptop again, or any expensive Windows software. My CRIMPing is moving to the cloud...
washere
1/10/2019 3:47 pm
No future hardware purchases of Win/Mac/Linux, just Chromebooks, I can see that working, for many typical households.
