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Posted by NickG
Sep 16, 2019 at 08:18 AM

 

Let me suggest another effect: those of us who grew up before personal computers became ubiquitous worked with papers on desktops and became habituated to the availability ion space to spread out. A couple of generations have now grown up with electronic screens as their “desktop” and have become habituated to ways of working with limited real estate but unlimited “swappability”.

I might think that an earlier generation was just a bemused by the notion of a pocket notebook instead of sheets of foolscap.

As well, it takes time an effort to wean oneself away from large (multiple) screens and keyboards to a single screen/keyboard combined. Young people learn this as they’re learning to read and write - we have to train ourselves in new habits and that involves time and work that we may not have, or may not consider a worthwhile investment.

As a related note, I used to hear many people suggest that using pen and paper is intuitive, whereas using screen and keyboard isn’t - I used to argue at the time that using pen and paper isn’t intuitive - it’s something we spend literally years learning as children. Equally, most of us spent years learning how to get the best from our personal computers (are still learning, in many cases). Maybe using mobile devices is in a similar category.

Lothar Scholz wrote:

>ABut maybe its because young people can’t afford good housing and
>therefore they are used to tight space and most have never any large set
>of data to deal with. Then of course you can do it on your iPad.
>

 


Posted by Simon
Sep 16, 2019 at 05:34 PM

 

For me the focus is more pragmatic. iMacs, macair’s, macbook pro’s are just so expensive. It’s cheaper to get a high end iPad pro than a low end mac laptop. Someone stated somewhere (sorry, can’t remember where), that Apple now has a 48% markup. The cost of purchasing an apple computer is a hurdle in itself. If you can’t afford that then desktop only apps won’t even be considered, not matter how good.

In terms of people’s comments about limited screen estate on an iPad, the iPad Pro 12.9 is awesome. The only limit to its capability is the software. I can create graphics as easily on an iPad with Affinity designer as I can with Affinity designer on my imac. Apple have been steadily heading in the direction of one OS and it seems to be iOS. MacOS has become increasingly unstable and unpleasant to use. Apple’s own apps have either been dumbed down in terms of functionality; so they can work on macOS and iOS or retired. Somehow I think desktop only apps are going to struggle. Having said that Catalina will allow the porting of iOS apps to macOS. Should the reverse be possible in the next few year, that would make things interesting.

 


Posted by Simon
Sep 16, 2019 at 05:39 PM

 

Someone commented about the need of having data mobile. This is actually crucial in many area from minutes of meetings, to actions and projects as well as communication, policies and a myriad of other documents. However, laptops are becoming increasingly frowned upon in meetings, where tablets are not.

 


Posted by Hugh
Sep 17, 2019 at 08:20 AM

 

To me, what we’re seeing here is the distinction between different categories of work, and the requirements they have for different types of digital tools. I suspect that the main distinction is between “deep work” and what the author Cal Newport rather disparagingly calls “shallow work” (although, for example, getting meetings to work successfully, before, during and after, which Newport tends to categorise as shallow work, often seems to me to require deep thought and careful planning).

But ignoring such quibbles, in my experience the broad distinction does generally hold true. For example, I do a lot of long-form writing. Theorising that I’d be able to do even more if I used those odd moments in the day when I’m not at my desk, I bought an iPad Pro. It’s a very nice tool, and I use it for other purposes, but long-form writing? Not much. Mobile versions of Scrivener and Ulysses aren’t much use to me. Nor would a mobile version of Notetaker be. When I’m not at my desk, I have the wrong mindset. But I can see that they’d be useful for other kinds of work, in other circumstances.

 


Posted by Jeffery Smith
Sep 17, 2019 at 02:00 PM

 

I was bemused a few years ago when the newest update for Pages had fewer features, including some features that I needed, features that had me using Pages instead of Word or Nisus Pro. The removal of those features appeared to be to allow desktop Pages to be compatible with iPad Pages. I didn’t use iPad Pages, and now I don’t use either.

 


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