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Posted by Slartibartfarst
Sep 4, 2018 at 03:35 AM

 

This discussion thread is still “TheBrain v10 Alpha is available”, right?
Or should it be changed to “Microsoft Office HATE”, or something - assuming most forum contributors might prefer that?
Either way, I do feel that a discussion on “MS Office Licencing - Facts and Fiction” could be enlightening, given some of the above posts/comments.

Meanwhile, I feel sure that The Brain continues to be an excellent product, though some may disagree over the niceties of its licencing.

 


Posted by tightbeam
Sep 4, 2018 at 11:25 AM

 

Anyone (well, anyone with $400) can purchase Microsoft Office Plus, the version that includes Access:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/office-professional-2016/cfq7ttc0k5f8?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
As a matter of fact, it appears that purchasing—as opposed to
>renting—is available only for home/student editions, whereas
>professionals and businesses only get the rental options:
>https://products.office.com/en-us/compare-all-microsoft-office-products?tab=2
> >While this discussion is quite off-topic, I have to say that I am
>grateful for bringing this issue to my attention.
> >Pierre Paul Landry wrote:
>tightbeam wrote:
>>>irresponsible rumors to the contrary notwithstanding (...)
>>Bob, that’s a bit harsh, no ? Paul acknowledged it is in fact possible
>>to buy (at least some) versions of Office, though as it is evident from
>>MS web site, they strongly favor the rent approach.
>>
>>So much so that I could not find a purchase option of a MS Office
>>version that included Access (the old Office Pro). Perhaps it is
>>possible, but hardly advertised…
>

 


Posted by Lothar Scholz
Sep 4, 2018 at 11:48 AM

 

tightbeam wrote:
Anyone (well, anyone with $400) can purchase Microsoft Office Plus, the
>version that includes Access:

But it still is upto Microsoft to enable it. All software activation that need server contact to install and use means that you don’t own the software. You see it in the gaming industry that almost all the games in the early millenium years are non installable anymore and worthless - at least at this time they still had nice boxes you can now put on your shelf.

Unfortunately i’ve never seen this activation question answered on the website.

And back to the topic. I really think that software vendors need to offer a “next major release OR next 3 years” updates included.  Because i see updates more like a warranty and everything below 2 years is a disgrace and greedy rip-off because 2 years is already mandatory by law on every physical product in the EU.

 


Posted by tightbeam
Sep 4, 2018 at 01:01 PM

 

If you buy the software, Microsoft will enable it, and will keep it enabled, for as long as they’re in business, which I imagine will be longer than the remaining lifespan alloted to me here on our wonderful planet earth. That’s sufficient “ownership” (for me).

I do agree with your other point, about “‘next major release OR next 3 years’ updates included”.

Lothar Scholz wrote:

>tightbeam wrote:
>Anyone (well, anyone with $400) can purchase Microsoft Office Plus, the
>>version that includes Access:
> >But it still is upto Microsoft to enable it. All software activation
>that need server contact to install and use means that you don’t own the
>software. You see it in the gaming industry that almost all the games in
>the early millenium years are non installable anymore and worthless - at
>least at this time they still had nice boxes you can now put on your
>shelf.
> >Unfortunately i’ve never seen this activation question answered on the
>website.
> >And back to the topic. I really think that software vendors need to
>offer a “next major release OR next 3 years” updates included.  Because
>i see updates more like a warranty and everything below 2 years is a
>disgrace and greedy rip-off because 2 years is already mandatory by law
>on every physical product in the EU.
>

 


Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Sep 4, 2018 at 02:21 PM

 

tightbeam wrote:
Anyone (well, anyone with $400) can purchase Microsoft Office Plus, the
>version that includes Access:
> >https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/office-professional-2016/cfq7ttc0k5f8?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
> So true… Thanks

Also true is the **very** unusual upgrade policy for it:
———-
One-time purchases don’t have an upgrade option, which means if you plan to upgrade to the next major release, you’ll have to buy it at full price.
———-

Pierre

 


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