ConnectedText on wine / mac and zettelkasten programs

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Posted by Browza
Jun 25, 2018 at 05:15 PM

Hey everybody,

I recently downloaded wine on mac (according to this very helpful tutorial: https://www.davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/#part-1:-install-homebrew) and the trial version of CT for zettelkasten purposes. I could install it just fine, but I get a weird error when I tried launching CT:

XXX-MBP:ConnectedText XXXr$ wine ConnText.exe
0096:err:process:__wine_kernel_init boot event wait timed out
0096:err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {00000320-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} not registered
0096:err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {00000320-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} could be created for context 0x80000001
0096:err:ole:marshal_object couldn’t get IPSFactory buffer for interface {00000131-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
0096:err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {b8da6310-e19b-11d0-933c-00a0c90dcaa9} not registered
0096:err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {b8da6310-e19b-11d0-933c-00a0c90dcaa9} could be created for context 0x80000001
0096:err:ole:marshal_object couldn’t get IPSFactory buffer for interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}
0096:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hres=0x80004002
0096:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, 80004002
0096:err:ole:get_local_server_stream Failed: 80004002
00a5:fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x12df028,0x00000000), stub!

I am really not that tech-savvy and can not really make any sense of that. Does anybody know what the problem is?

Also, a bit more generally: what are your thoughts on using digital zettelkästen? For one, it is not entirely clear to me whether ConnectedText will be developed in the next few years. But equally, I feel like I should be cautious about all programs when we are talking about a timespan of 20-30 years.

Thanks for helping out.

Posted by Jon Polish
Jun 25, 2018 at 06:39 PM

Dr. Andus is the expert on CT and could probably assist with your problem and advice on application for your purpose. Others on this forum also promote CT’s virtues and the program has intrigued me. But honestly I just never clicked with it.

Jon

Posted by nblaz
Jun 25, 2018 at 07:10 PM

Browza wrote:

>
>Also, a bit more generally: what are your thoughts on using digital
>zettelkästen? For one, it is not entirely clear to me whether
>ConnectedText will be developed in the next few years. But equally, I
>feel like I should be cautious about all programs when we are talking
>about a timespan of 20-30 years.
> >Thanks for helping out.

I’m a regular reader of this forum and decided to weigh in on this as my first post (hi everyone!) because you mentioned zettelkasten specifically. I’ve been on a long journey of establishing a interconnected, long term notes, having tried everything from dedicated artisanal tools like ConnectedText and Tinderbox, to wiki software like DokuWiki, TrunkNotes, TiddlyWiki, cloud notes apps like Evernote, OneNote, Google Keep, Notion, etc.

It seems that we CRIMPers are always looking for the tool that has the magic combination of functionality and data portability: no one wants to input a large body of data and then be held hostage by a developer, company, or even format, that is no longer active. At the same time, this is 2018 - we should be able to perform advanced, elegant operations with our data that helps us to move beyond what would have been possible even 5 or 10 years ago, right?

The conclusion I’ve come to is that, at least for myself, there is a tension between feature-rich tools and note longevity. This tension becomes a serious concern over a span of time as long as you’ve mentioned, 20-30 years. Because I’m erring towards note longevity on this kind of scale myself, I’m willing to sacrifice features, and believe that a plain-text methodology such as the one that Christian Tietze and Sascha Fast have published at zettelkasten.de fits the bill. I didn’t want to go this way initially, and found Manfred Kuehn’s pushback on the methodology quite persuasive in favor of a tool like ConnectedText. Ultimately, though, I found plaintext to be the easiest way to maintain a digital zettelkasten across Windows, Mac, and iOS, especially now that ConnectedText seems to no longer be under active development.

Hope this helps.

Posted by nathanb
Jun 25, 2018 at 07:30 PM

>Ultimately, though, I found plaintext to be the easiest
>way to maintain a digital zettelkasten across Windows, Mac, and iOS,
>especially now that ConnectedText seems to no longer be under active
>development.
>

This is a question we all struggle with. I keep asking myself what ‘easiest’ means in this context. Does it literally mean the minimum time it takes to manage your info (overhead)? I’m leaning towards using the best software available until it’s no longer viable, then doing a ‘hard migration’ when you need to switch platforms. Which could very well mean copying every single item individually and re-coding the links and metadata. I figure if the difference between the ‘best fit’ software and plain text is a 20% gain in productivity/usefulness then that’s worth several days of hard migration every couple years. I also justify more CRIMPing by telling myself that ‘hard migration’ is basically a huge review of all your stuff which has a large theoretical value.

If I were to go to a plain text system, I’d take a hard look at tagspaces. Their front-end to a plain text note collection has intrigued me for a while.

Posted by Paul Korm
Jun 25, 2018 at 08:55 PM

I’ve attempted several times over the years to run ConnectedText in a CrossOver bottle. CrossOver is a hyped up, sort of pricey, version of wine. CT runs OK, but CT’s user interface gets ugly when running under wine. Running CT in wine always messes up my CT license.

If you Google the IPSFactory error you’ll find numerous threads on the topic. The gist seems to be an InstallShield issue. The advice seems to be “go find a different version of wine”. I’m sure that’s not helpful.

Browza wrote:
>I recently downloaded wine on mac (according to this very helpful
>tutorial:
>https://www.davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/#part-1:-install-homebrew)
>and the trial version of CT for zettelkasten purposes. I could install
>it just fine, but I get a weird error when I tried launching CT:

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