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One text file/outline/mind map/tinderbox to rule them all?
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Posted by rogbar
Jan 14, 2018 at 11:03 PM
The late, lamented, missed-but-not-forgotten, Ecco Pro.
Never been anything like it since.
kjxymzy wrote:
Anybody just keep a big single file of your notes? How does it work for
>you? Positives/negatives?
Posted by kjxymzy
Jan 16, 2018 at 05:43 AM
Thx for the suggestion Dr Andus.
Just used Workflowy for collaboration and it saved a bunch of back and forth chatting.
Lovely app.
Dr Andus wrote:
kjxymzy wrote:
>Anybody just keep a big single file of your notes? How does it work for
>>you? Positives/negatives?
>
>This is what WorkFlowy is. It works very well for me. Key advantages are
>the ability to quickly move around and find things, including tagged
>items, zooming in and out (hoisting), the export options, the nightly
>automatic backups to Dropbox, and the various Chrome extensions and
>Stylish/Stylus CSS enhancements. Also, each outline item has its own
>URL, which allows for some cross-linking or linking to from external
>applications.
>
>It runs in a single browser tab, but you can open it in as many tabs as
>you like, which then gives you multiple access points to different parts
>of the outline.
>
>It doesn’t have any negatives for me, as I accept its limitations.
>
>Another single file app that comes to mind is TiddlyWiki (which I
>haven’t used):
>
>http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/7722/0/tiddlywiki-resurgent
>
>
Posted by kjxymzy
Jan 16, 2018 at 05:47 AM
Any timeline on the Mac release?
I look forward to reading the design philosophy (in my reading queue at the moment).
Mark Nevarrik wrote:
Dr Andus wrote:
>>This is what WorkFlowy is. It works very well for me. Key advantages
>are [...]
>>
>>It doesn’t have any negatives for me, as I accept its limitations.
>
>I like Dr. Andus’s approach, in that the more you try push the
>limitations, the less focused it can be any particular application.
>
>The best thing about using a big single file for your notes is having it
>all in one place, and the security that if someone better comes along
>you can export your plain text investment. What that does, is prevent
>you from taking too seriously the upfront optimization problem of what
>system to use.
>
>When I wrote Indigrid (freeware for Windows), I wanted to see how far I
>could take plain text for that reason. Even though it is one big plain
>text outline, you can open multiple sections of a single big file in
>different columns. https://innovationdilation.com
>
>But I think what would be most interesting is how I could open it up so
>that other third parties can extend it, with the only limitation that it
>must stay plain text, so that you can always have your data grow with
>you, no matter how many times you outgrow your tools.
Posted by kjxymzy
Jan 16, 2018 at 05:56 AM
I think the title was too glib now, but it at least sparked some interesting discussion and exposure to Indigrid.
I tried doing everything in one mind map (task, reference management, lists, tracking, notes etc) and that got overwhelming.
I’ve now moved on to having a unifying org system/naming scheme over an array of specialized software. Much smoother.
washere wrote:
I installed, used for a while and uninstalled TheBrain many a times.
>IMHO the mega mind mapper was just the usual hype and worse a time
>killer for me, maybe OK for footnotes/research refs but there are much
>better specialist in that genre. I used TiddlyWiki a lot until early
>last year, then like the other wiki maker ConnectedText, I stopped using
>it. I found a couple of other better wiki makers but have no use any
>more for general purpose wiki files. More specialized these days, more
>focused in each tool area.
>
>The OP title is specific, not just one genre, mind-map or just wiki etc,
>but one that ticks the boxes listed. The tool sought by the thread lists
>the first 2 requirements as a “text file” app and then an “outline"r etc
>etc. Interesting to see if there are any candidates proposed that not
>only will tick all those boxes but are good enough to be “The One”. I’m
>not searching anymore, will be surprised if there is anything new
>proposed I never heard of. Scrivener plus Scapple comes close, but they
>are not the one either. I assume to remain on-topic, candidate tools
>need to tick those genres he listed, presumably. It is in daily and long
>term usage that one discovers the dark horse, the dirtied golden fleece,
>the unassuming one.