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Posted by Hugh Pile
Oct 3, 2006 at 07:13 PM
The UR-Word combination is slightly slicker than you imply Derek. I’ve set up a Word outline template in UR, so I just click on that to get the Word toolbars (including the outline toolbar) to pop up in UR’s editing pane - no resizing of the window necessary. And the results are fully indexed, and of course saveable within UR. I imagine the same would apply to BrainStorm, or, as you say, NoteMap.
I’d forgotton about the Palm/PPC outliners like PocketThinker - which seems good value. I notice that it will import Ecco csv outlines, which reminded me that what I’d really really like is the bastard child of Ecco and Zoot, all written in 32-bit, and looking beautiful, of course.
Posted by Jack Crawford
Oct 4, 2006 at 02:32 AM
Hugh Pile made this pronouncement:
>>The UR-Word combination is slightly slicker than you imply Derek. I’ve set up a Word outline template in UR, so I just click on that to get the Word toolbars (including the outline toolbar) to pop up in UR’s editing pane - no resizing of the window necessary.
Hi Hugh
Could you say a little more about what you mean by a “Word outline template”? Do you mean a standard Word template or some cut-down version for outlining? Pardon my ignorance.
Jack
Posted by Derek Cornish
Oct 4, 2006 at 07:12 AM
re UR: I thought there must be something more to it. Like Jack, I’d like to know more about the Word outline template. Good to know about the indexing of the files. I think Zoot has a way of searching linked files, but I’ve never got it to work. With Word files I just tend to extract the text and import it into Zoot. Like most people I’m hoping the 32-bit version will take care of many of these problems.
I’m more and more impressed with PocketThinker. I haven’t tried the PPC version yet; only the desktop one. So far my only problem has been getting the desktop version’s outline items to link with Outlook contacts, notes, etc. I have managed to get it to work, but it was a fiddle, and only worked properly after I had closed and opened Outlook again. I had similar problems opening the PT outlines from within Outlook. All seems sorted out now, though. PT also has a nifty feature that enables one to convert Outlook notes to outlines.
PocketThinker’s issues with linking may be being caused by two factors: having ActiveSync in my startup, and - probably associated with this, or with the PT-Outlook integration - problems in getting Outlook 2003 to close down properly. I’ve just installed Knockout.exe (http://sunflowerhead.com/software/knockout/), and that seems to help.
Posted by Hugh Pile
Oct 4, 2006 at 08:40 AM
The template is a UR template. It’s not complicated to make, but it has a couple of stages that are covered in the UR Help and UR’s own forum. What you end up with is a Word document - can be an outline, can be any other Word document - in the templates branch of your UR data explorer pane. You can then use this to create any Word document - including a proper Word outline - and store it anywhere else in your data explorer tree. What you are effectively doing as far as I can see is making Word, rather than UR’s text editor, your editing tool.
It’s not perfect - only Word toolbars, not Word menus, end up in the editing pane. And the Word toolbars sitting below the UR toolbars look rather cumbersome. But as well as searching, you also have UR’s metadata available to you. And what is really good is that notes I make, say, in Outlook, and store in UR, I can just drag and drop from the UR data explorer tree directly into a Word outline in the editing pane.
Posted by Jack Crawford
Oct 4, 2006 at 11:53 AM
Understood. Thanks for the information Hugh. I’ll have to have a good look myself.
Jack