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Posted by ndodge
Mar 12, 2008 at 02:53 AM

 

After researching outlining software for awhile, I’m convinced the Mac has several products I’d love to try.  I don’t have a Mac though.  Does anyone have experience running applications like Tinderbox, OmniOutliner, etc. on a Mac emulator ?  If they’d work, that might be the way to go for me.  Thanks,

 


Posted by Cassius
Mar 12, 2008 at 06:38 AM

 

Speaking of the Mac, my son gave up on PCs and bought one.  He says he still has to use a Vista PC at work and HATES it.  He says that any DVD created on a Vista PC, such as one onto which documents have been copied, cannot be read on any non-Vista machine.  Has anyone else had this problem or has a solution?  Please let me know.

Speaking of my son, he’s in charge of the development of a horror video game.  He says, “Who would have thought that my obsession with horror movies and comics as a kid would have led to a job as an adult?”

-c

 


Posted by Chris Thompson
Mar 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM

 

There’s no Mac emulator, but if you’re willing to hunt around on the seedier side of the internet, through hacks you can install OS X on generic PCs:
http://wiki.osx86project.org/
See also:
http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/build-a-hackintosh-mac-for-under-800-321913.php

The problem with these setups is generally finding drivers… and most of the various hardware niceties don’t work, but it’s a decent solution if you want to play around with things.  An easier solution is probably just to hang around a local Apple store for a few hours if there’s one near you.

—Chris

ndodge wrote:
>After researching outlining software for awhile, I’m convinced the Mac has several
>products I’d love to try.  I don’t have a Mac though.  Does anyone have experience
>running applications like Tinderbox, OmniOutliner, etc. on a Mac emulator ?  If
>they’d work, that might be the way to go for me.  Thanks, 

 


Posted by Franz Grieser
Mar 12, 2008 at 10:42 AM

 

Hi.

As Chris pointed out: There is no Mac emulator for PCs, only (illegal) hacks.

What you can do: Go buy a used Mac (e.g. a pre-Intel Mac Mini - these are comparatively cheap). Download the trial versions of the software you are interested in and give them a try. When you don’t like the Mac and/or the software: Sell the machine on eBay.

Two more hints:

1. Used machines are overly expensive on eBay (at least here in Germany). I’d go to a Mac user community (on the Web) or to a Mac-specific website and look for a used machine in the second-hand market there. For selling, eBay may be the better place though. :-)

2. You said you were interested in Tinderbox. It will take a while to get the hang of TB - don’t expect to “get it” when you play around with it for an hour or two. Better have a look at the screencasts on eastgate.com/tinderbox first and check out the pages on “Using Tinderbox” and the TB articles on http://markbernstein.org/Tinderbox.html. If you write fiction, also go to the TB forum (http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/forum) and read the thread “Notes for a Novel” in the “Tinderbox applications” section.

Franz

 


Posted by Manfred
Mar 12, 2008 at 09:53 PM

 

Actually, there are legal mac emulators. The only thing is that they emulate only Macs that are running up to OS 7.5. One of my favorites is Mini Vmac. See http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/. It’s really fast and it will run older mac outliners.

The other one is Basilisk II (which is a bit more sophisticated).

You need (for both of them) a Mac ROM file (which may or may not be legal, depending on how you obtain it).

Manfred

 


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