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Posted by Paul Korm
Dec 17, 2016 at 05:18 PM
Unbelievable isn’t it. Do a bunch of guys from Evernote just make this stuff up when they head over to Starbucks for coffee? “Hey dude, let’s water down our privacy policy.” “Good idea, let me write something on my phone while we’re waiting.” Privacy policies have far ranging, legal, governmental / regulatory implications. You don’t just go “oh, never mind”.
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Dec 17, 2016 at 05:59 PM
The last statement I saw from Evernote said they had scrapped the new security policy, and now had a provision that users had to “opt in” if they agreed to having staff see their notes.
EN says their new policy is related to developing machine learning capability.
And therein is probably the major reason for hooking up with Google because of its capability with machine learning.
Daly
Paul Korm wrote:
Unbelievable isn’t it. Do a bunch of guys from Evernote just make this
>stuff up when they head over to Starbucks for coffee? “Hey dude, let’s
>water down our privacy policy.” “Good idea, let me write something on
>my phone while we’re waiting.” Privacy policies have far ranging,
>legal, governmental / regulatory implications. You don’t just go “oh,
>never mind”.
Posted by Slartibartfarst
Dec 18, 2016 at 03:13 AM
Paul Korm wrote:
Unbelievable isn’t it. Do a bunch of guys from Evernote just make this
>stuff up when they head over to Starbucks for coffee? “Hey dude, let’s
>water down our privacy policy.” “Good idea, let me write something on
>my phone while we’re waiting.” Privacy policies have far ranging,
>legal, governmental / regulatory implications. You don’t just go “oh,
>never mind”.
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Yes, it would seem to be unbelievable, but then that might be what was intended.
Maybe they wanted to take the focus of public attention off of their unfortunate pricing policy and at the same time establish a new privacy policy.
One way to do that might have been to do exactly what they have just done, where the initial privacy was merely a straw man put up for public shock/horror, intended to be downgraded as it has apparently been, after they had ostensibly “had second thoughts”.
When talking with Evernote marketing, I’d advise people to keep both hands firmly in their pockets.
Posted by dan7000
Dec 18, 2016 at 10:32 PM
Larry Kollar wrote:
I’ve been gradually pulling out of Evernote for a while now. This will
>only accelerate my exit.
What software are people here adopting as an alternative to Evernote for cross-platform, muti-client/synced web clipping, PDF tagging, and notetaking?
I would love to ditch EN but I don’t know of a suitable alternative for what I use it for. Sure there’s OneNote but if there’s one company I trust less than EN…
Anything out there other than OneNote that does the following:
- Full-text search of notes, web clippings, and PDFs
- tagging
- iOS, Android and Windows clients
- decent web clipping (web pages don’t look mangled)
- Synced in some way - cloud or otherwise - so I can see my iOS notes in Windows and vice-versa.
It seems like there was a lot of competition in this space 10 years ago, but lately everyone just gave up because EN and ON had captured the market. Would be great to see a startup launch a secure alternative that included all of the above capabilities
[As an aside: I don’t see this privacy policy issue as a big deal. I suspect every cloud service we use, if it is not zero-knowledge, allows staff to look at our data when necessary for technical reasons. EN just made the mistake of making this explicit instead of implicit.]
Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 18, 2016 at 11:48 PM
dan7000 wrote:
>What software are people here adopting as an alternative to Evernote for
>cross-platform, muti-client/synced web clipping, PDF tagging, and
>notetaking?
I’ve managed to avoid both Evernote and OneNote for now. I don’t have a single ‘bag’ for everything. Some plain text notes and URLs go into WorkFlowy (using the “Clip to WorkFlowy” extension in Chrome), which syncs across all my devices.
Random web pages that I decide to keep get saved/printed as PDF (in Chrome) straight into Google Drive, which is cross-platform. I can use hierarchical folders, and while there are no tags, you can add comments to a file, and files and image content are searchable.
If a web page or file is relevant to some of my past or current projects, and if I’m not on my Windows machine, it gets emailed to my Gmail account (using “Send this link with Gmail” Chrome extension), and then processed later to end up in either Surfulater or ConnectedText (neither of which are cross-platform).