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Posted by Cassius
Mar 7, 2008 at 11:34 PM

 

Derek Cornish wrote:  Although I’m a great fan, and current user, of GV - which works fine for me on XP - I don’t see it as comparable with Zoot in terms of capacity to organize information. Complementary - yes.
> >It’s hardly surprising that people seem to be switching over to the Mac in droves. The lack of decent writing tools in Windows after all these years is pretty disappointing. I had as good a set when I used DOS: Lotus Agenda, Lotus Magellan, Lotus Manuscript, PC-Write, Grandview,
Harvard Graphics, dtSearch and DesQview/X.
> >Meanwhile, Mac users have - well, we know what they have :-(. I won’t be upgrading to Vista when my Thinkpad bites the dirt. In fact, it will be a good time to switch platforms.
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1)  I, too, still use GV for some things on Win XP.  Derek, what settings (PIF, etc.) or supplementary software do you use to make GV as friendly as possible on XP? —Maybe I should start another topic on this as a number of us still use GV.

2)  I have the same feeling about the Mac, but my current laptop is only 15 months old.  Another incentive:  From what I’ve read, Vista is an abomination.  The main drawback to switching is moving all info/documents from Win software to Mac Software.  Anyone have a “magic” solution?

3)  Derek, all that great DOS software?  Either you must be almost as old as I or you were a boy prodigy.

4)  I do/did a lot of math/stat work, so rtf is/was important.  (In GV, I used HP printer codes to create math equations.)

-c

 


Posted by Cassius
Mar 7, 2008 at 11:58 PM

 

Stephen Zeoli wrote:  Yes, but we’ve been waiting for 17 years for a Windows version of GrandView!
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True, but remember that Symantec owns the rights to GV and its unique file format, and 1) decided not to update it and 2) apparently has not been willing to share any of it.  This is very typical of Symantec.  My guess is that Symantec would not support the updating of GV by its author and so he went on to other things.

-c

 


Posted by MsJulie
Mar 8, 2008 at 12:16 AM

 

James Fallows covers the new release in his blog:

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/new_version_of_zoot_goes_up.php

 


Posted by Tom S.
Mar 8, 2008 at 03:50 PM

 

Cassius wrote:

>2)  I have the same feeling about the Mac, but my
>current laptop is only 15 months old.  Another incentive:  From what I’ve read, Vista is
>an abomination.  The main drawback to switching is moving all info/documents from Win
>software to Mac Software.  Anyone have a “magic” solution?

FWIW I got a new laptop 6 months ago and I haven’t had a single problem with Vista.  Of course, I must admit I spend 95% of my time in MS programs.  If it didn’t work with Outlook, the MS would indeed have a problem.  :)

Bottom line, I wouldn’t get too excited about what I read about it.  As you probably know, the presentation of the facts often gets colored by the point of view.  It’s unavoidable in even the most neutral of newspaper reports.  And my experience is that views about OSs are more like religion.  Opinions are never really neutral.

Tom S.

 


Posted by Cassius
Mar 8, 2008 at 06:01 PM

 

Tom S. wrote:  FWIW I got a new laptop 6 months ago and I haven’t had a single problem with Vista.  Of course, I must admit I spend 95% of my time in MS programs.  If it didn’t work with Outlook, the MS would indeed have a problem.  :)
> >Bottom line, I wouldn’t get too excited about what I read about it.  As you probably know, the presentation of the facts often gets colored by the point of view.  It’s unavoidable in even the most neutral of newspaper reports.  And my experience is that views about OSs are more like religion.  Opinions are never really neutral.
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Unfortunately, I only use one MS program-Word 2000-for the book I’m writing.  Everything else is non-MS.  Of course, a switch to the MAC means either abandoning all my info in Windows programs, manually transferring it, or running Windows on a Mac.  It probably isn’t rational to make the switch.  But I do HATE the registry and many programs apparently will not be rewritten for Vista.  In particular, GoBack.  GoBack has saved my behind many times, but Symantec now owns it and has decided not to update it for Vista, just as happened with GV.

-c

 


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