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Posted by MadaboutDana
Feb 6, 2015 at 09:18 AM


Ah, my fears have been assuaged. Ulysses for iPad will indeed preserve the one/two/three-pane support it has as a desktop app. Excellent!

More at: http://ulyssesapp.com/blog/2015/02/navigate-with-ease/


Posted by MadaboutDana
Feb 6, 2015 at 09:34 AM


Interestingly, I’ve only been able to find four Markdown/rich-text outliners that also support tags and are cross-platform (MacOS and iOS), and none of them are outliners in the fullest sense of the term. They are:

Ulysses III (and its upcoming iPad sibling)
Letterspace (already runs on iOS: iPad and iPhone. Sync is a bit iffy, maybe because it uses iCloud, but new versions are in the offing)
Notebooks (the most mature: supports tags [as contexts] as well as Markdown and rich text! Slightly clunky on sync [Dropbox])
Keep Everything (runs on iPad and iPhone, doesn’t have the most sophisticated editor, but syncs pretty well [again, Dropbox], although you have to double-sync to preserve categories)

And who knows what Scrivener for iOS will be like? The signs are promising, but I don’t expect to see an actual app before 2020…

OmniOutliner is very powerful, but doesn’t support tags as such, although I suppose it could be set up as if it did. It uses its own synchronisation server. It’s also a bit of a heavyweight and doesn’t run on iPhone. The latter weakness is/will be true of Ulysses for iPad, too.

I’m looking forward to the iOS version of OutlineEdit, because I think that would be amazingly cool (outliner + tags/categories + rich text). Robin…?

I no longer make much distinction between rich text and Markdown. The latter has the advantage of being, fundamentally, text-only. But rich text is undoubtedly easier and more elegant to use. One of my favourite rich-text editors (which also supports Markdown), Quiver, is, alas, unlikely to make it to iOS in anything other than ‘viewer’ form. That will be good, but not great.

There’s a big niche waiting to be filled here, for which OutlineEdit might well be the ideal app: an outliner that is cross-platform, supports rich text and supports tags. Workflowy doesn’t fit the bill, unfortunately - I’ve tried.


Posted by jaslar
Feb 6, 2015 at 06:18 PM


For me, cross-platform is iOS and Windows, making things even more complicated. And am I correct in believing that none of the ones you mention are actually outliners? That is, they don’t really offer expanding and collapsing text.

For me, Workflowy has actually worked pretty well. The iOS version is a little crippled (especially for export), but works far better than, for instance, Fargo or Oakoutliner on the iPad, which don’t seem to detect the arrow keys of my Logitech keyboard, making them both all but unusable.


Posted by Paul Korm
Feb 6, 2015 at 07:56 PM


Another announcement today was Ulysses 2 for OS X.  The product that today is Ulysses III v1.2 will become Ulysses 2.0 and drop the “III”.  It “embraces” the Yosemite design concepts.  (Ugh.)  Ulysses 2 will be needed for compatibility with Ulysses iOS (iPad and iPhone).  No mention of whether v2.0 requires repurchasing Ulysses for OS X.

MadaboutDana wrote:
Ah, my fears have been assuaged. Ulysses for iPad will indeed preserve
>the one/two/three-pane support it has as a desktop app. Excellent!
> >More at: http://ulyssesapp.com/blog/2015/02/navigate-with-ease/


Posted by Franz Grieser
Feb 6, 2015 at 07:58 PM


Ulysses 2.0 will be a free update:



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