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Posted by Paul Korm
Jan 20, 2015 at 02:50 PM

 

Maybe a small industry? 

Tinderbox is sui generis—there’s not much out there that supports unconstrained making of metadata for each note.  The only thing close in OS X computerland I can think of is a DBMS like FileMaker—which is certainly *not* something I’d recommend for note taking.

OTOH—a handwritten notebook is all about metadata: pictures, marginalia, pointers to other notes, etc.  As much as I enjoy Tinderbox, many times when I’m working and getting frustrated with fiddling with attributes and rules, I’ll just turn off the computer, grab a ledger sheet (11x17 in the U.S.) and start writing and drawing.  I get a lot farther a lot faster working out ideas with pencil and paper than Tinderbox—or any software—can take me.  And, when I’m done I just scan it and keep the notes.

Prion wrote
>The question remains: What *IS* the best home for all the notes then if the programs with excellent metadata and visualization capabilities do not scale well and those that do are rather poor in terms of making use of metadata?
>This never-ending quest seems to keep an entire software industry alive.

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Jan 20, 2015 at 04:13 PM

 

>Prion wrote:
> What *IS* the best home for all the notes then if
>the programs with excellent metadata and visualization capabilities do
>not scale well and those that do are rather poor in terms of making use
>of metadata?

Us die-hard CT fans would obviously say ConnectedText ;-) where you can have some fun with metadata (although it doesn’t match the visualisation tools of Tinderbox). But it can do well what Hugh is suggesting below: link to external tools, such as Freeplane mind maps and back. This is not to say that I don’t have Tinderbox envy as a Windows user :-)

Hugh wrote:
>The - relatively
>unsatisfactory - answer, I suspect, is to harness two applications
>together with hyperlinks, one application to store data and the other
>application to manipulate limited selections of items, their metadata
>and visualisation

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jan 21, 2015 at 08:12 PM

 

As it turns out, there is an update of Tinderbox available. This version includes a new introductory feature. Per Mark Bernstein:

“Tinderbox 6.1.3 includes a brand-new Help menu item, Getting Started With Tinderbox, which provides a detailed walkthrough for new Tinderbox users. The walkthrough explore outlines, maps, the new Attribute Browser, agents, and lots more, all in the context of an actual Tinderbox task.  There’s also a new Badge Picker, hundreds of new badges, and lots of additional polish.”

Just an FYI.

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jan 21, 2015 at 09:09 PM

 

As an addendum: I just looked at the new Getting Started with Tinderbox help resource, and it turns out to be far more extensive than I expected. It is a 114-page PDF. Quite a robust document that I intended to read start to finish, because I’m not as familiar with version 6 as I’d like to be.

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Hugh
Jan 22, 2015 at 09:08 AM

 

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
As an addendum: I just looked at the new Getting Started with Tinderbox
>help resource, and it turns out to be far more extensive than I
>expected. It is a 114-page PDF. Quite a robust document that I intended
>to read start to finish, because I’m not as familiar with version 6 as
>I’d like to be.
> >Steve Z.

Thanks Steve. Although I have a copy of 6.0.4, I’ve continued to preserve version 5 whilst Eastgate irons out the wrinkles of 6, and prepares a help file. This new “Getting Started…” resource may be the incentive I need to (mentally) upgrade.

 


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