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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Nov 23, 2014 at 04:33 AM

 

After discovering this week how much Evernote has screwed up its browser version, I began to look again for a replacement.

Clibu is not nearly sufficiently advanced, though it has promise. And Surfulater, its older sibling, seems to have been abandoned in terms of development.

Then I recalled Nimbus Notes, and kind of liked what I saw. It seems to have early on in its life to have shown greater understanding of information than Evernote has shown.

Anyone else seeing Nimbus Notes as an EN alternative?

Are there others?

I’ve thought of using MyInfo in DropBox - but have found that web pages which are “live” cannot be safely clipped. But I do like the columns feature.

I’ve a lot of material in Surfulater but don’t want to trust a product that’s not being developed any longer.

So am also thinking of WhizFolders.

Wondering if Workflowy can be modified?

Thoughts anyone?

Daly

 

 


Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM

 

Sharing how exactly, Daly? Across which platforms?

My first impulse is to suggest Notebooks, but that doesn’t run on Android. It runs on Windows, Mac and iOS, and is a better repository than Evernote (IMHO).

My second impulse is to suggest OneNote, although it can be irritating. But it does run on every platform, more or less (oh, except Linux).

 


Posted by WSP
Nov 23, 2014 at 09:21 PM

 

Daly, I have been a fairly steady user of Evernote since 2006, and through the years I have accumulated more than 20,000 notes in the program.

In recent months I have been relying on Evernote to create an online catalogue of William Morris’s personal library (http://williammorrislibrary.wordpress.com/), which I am doing in collaboration with my wife. It’s a very big project: we are recording information about some 2,000 books (and manuscripts), of which we have posted 860 so far on our website.

Last month I bought a Surface Pro 3 (a very nice device, by the way) to replace my old laptop and discovered that Evernote would not sync on it. I of course immediately got in touch with the Evernote support staff, but so far they have not been able to solve the mystery. Evernote is still functioning on my desktop machine, but what this means is that I can no longer use it in libraries (where I have to do most of my research).

This has been going on for a month now, and finally this weekend, in extreme frustration, I shifted all of my thousands of notes and drafts for the project over to OneNote, using a useful little utility program called OneNote Batch.

We will see whether that was a wise decision. So far I’ve noticed only two features of Evernote that I will miss. First, the tags in OneNote are quite feeble, consisting mainly of cute little icons. Second, it is more difficult to transfer images from OneNote to Wordpress.com (the platform for our catalogue). With Evernote I was able to drag and drop the images, but in OneNote that doesn’t work, and I am forced to use some awkward workarounds. Other than that, OneNote seems very well suited for a project like this.

Bill

 


Posted by Neville Franks
Nov 23, 2014 at 10:47 PM

 

Daly,
Thanks for trying Clibu. I would welcome your feedback on where you see it is currently lacking and if possible if you could prioritize the capabilities you need, that would be most helpful.

And I’d welcome and appreciate feedback from any other Outliner Software members. With the latest release of Clibu, last week, anyone can signup and get immediate access.

For those who don’t know anything about Clibu here is some information.

———————-
Clibu captures information, lets you edit it and easily find it again.

Some Key Features

- Hierarchical Tags and Multiple word tags.
- Rename, rearrange and delete Tags.
- Access your information from any PC anywhere.
- Content on all users PC’s is updated in realtime.
- Share and collaborate with others.
- Rich Editing capabilities.
- The Web Clipper collects Web page content in a snap.
- Email information to Clibu from your smart phone, tablet etc.
- Link articles together.
- Image Capture from the Web & Clipboard.
- Smart full text search.
- Clean design and simple to use.
—————————-

Neville, http://www.clibu.com

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
Nov 23, 2014 at 11:08 PM

 

I primarily use EN on my laptops.

At times, eg at the library or St Arbucks, I like to use the app on my tursty Nexus.

So far so good.

But there are times when I may want to go onto a browser, especially if I am for whatever reason without my laptop or Nexus.

Having not used the browser version of EVERNOTE for some time went on-line to use it this week. It was atrocious, a bad example of bad design, or else an all-out sign from Evernote it’s not seriously interested in making it easy to manage information (seems to me more interested in profitable deals with Moleskine [overpriced at best compared to other notebooks of similar or better quality costing less - Leuctturm] and other merchandisers, playing with great technology but never getting truly serious about it).

The EN browser version is so off the wall, over the top in a bad way it leaves me with a feeling serious information users can’t trust EN. One reason EN has been as popular as it has been is a whole bunch of creative users who have developed a lot of work-arounds for what wasn’t in EN in the first place. Trying to use those work-arounds in the browser version now is a joke.

I will look at Notebooks again.

And as for OneNote I’m not clear on how I can set it up to work with 1,000s of documents.

So for now I am OK if I never want to use EN on the laptops or the Nexus. But my confidence in the whole EN enterprise has been shaken by a this incredibly bad design which a) either shows lack of common/aesthetic sense, (b) lack of understanding of what’s necessary for information management, or (c) both.

That’s why I want an alternative.

Thanks.

Daly

MadaboutDana wrote:
Sharing how exactly, Daly? Across which platforms?
> >My first impulse is to suggest Notebooks, but that doesn’t run on
>Android. It runs on Windows, Mac and iOS, and is a better repository
>than Evernote (IMHO).
> >My second impulse is to suggest OneNote, although it can be irritating.
>But it does run on every platform, more or less (oh, except Linux).

 


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