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Posted by Graham Rhind
Mar 18, 2014 at 03:41 PM
Is anybody using Ariadne 6.1? (http://www.prokarpaty.net)
I was very fond of Ariadne in version 5 and before, but whilst Yuriy has been trying to re-develop it from scratch (with associated interface changes and weird behaviours) for version 6 it hasn’t been usable for me. However, looking at the newest version, it seems that it’s coming together, but the test version is fairly crippled by being read-only, so I would love to hear any feedback from registered users of version 6.
Cheers,
Graham
Posted by Prion
Mar 18, 2014 at 06:00 PM
This came straight out of the blue for me and I thought I knew most outliners at least as long as they run on a Mac.
But as you say, the test version is unsuitable for even small-scale projects. That may explain why so few are using it.
Posted by Lucas
Mar 18, 2014 at 06:31 PM
Interesting—thanks for the lead. I work on OS X (Mac) and Android (mobile), so it’s exciting to see an outliner being developed for both platforms (there are only a couple others as far as I know, such as NoteCase Pro and now OneNote).
Let’s hope development continues and a true trial version is released. (I did get hold of the Android demo…)
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Mar 19, 2014 at 04:22 PM
I used to be a great fan of Ariadne when Mike was developing it. The program was lean and fast, and was one of the first to offer a comment capability with each note in the outline. Comment and notes windows opened separately and it was Ariadne which showed me what a great ability it is to have multiple windows open when writing.
Ariadne also offered the capability of having a table in the outline itself, similar to InfoSelect. I suspect some of Mike’s ideas came from IS, but the execution was always better.
Ariadne used to have a browser built-in, and for a long time I did most of my web surfing and book marking within Ariadne. IS never had this capability which worked in a reasonable way, but Ariadne did.
I think the old Ariadne could have been marketed as a worthy successor to the moribund IS.
There was a time when Ariadne and ADM were my go-to programs. I loved both.
I would still use Ariadne but, admittedly, it has become dated.
When Yuriy acquired Ariadne I was hoepful. However, I have so far been disappointed, though I can see the program is beginning to look like Ariadne again.
However, I am not prepared to pay for what is not completed software, and which is more like an alpha than a beta release.
I think it’s necessary for Yuriy to deconstruct Ariadne 4 and 5 (web browser not in 5), and recognize its uniqueness and capabilities, and building on what was there, create a quality program for 2014. I think it’s possible, and I think he could do well with it - there is nothing quite like it.
If this were to happen I would gladly use Ariadne again.
Daly
Prion wrote:
This came straight out of the blue for me and I thought I knew most
>outliners at least as long as they run on a Mac.
>But as you say, the test version is unsuitable for even small-scale
>projects. That may explain why so few are using it.
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Mar 19, 2014 at 05:08 PM
I checked the Ariadne site now, and saw the latest release. I hadn’t realized that was the one being talked about here.
A couple of observations, and please forgive me if I sound unduely negative:
In its read-only mode a person has no way to evaluate it properly.
It’s therefore not fair to ask people to pay $19 to support further development if they are unable to test the result of developments to date. Yes, I understand the need for funds to develop the program, but…
Yuriy should provide a 30-day evaluation period.
The appearance of the program is rough, and lacking aesthetic appeal.
I can see parts of the old Ariadne there, but only in a rough form.
The program requires significant work. Again, I understand Yuriy needs for funding. However, given the circumstances, it’d be far better for him to ask for a $20 donation.
I want to see Yuriy succeed, but much more work is required before v 6 is ready for market as a beta.
Daly
Daly