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Posted by Ken Ashworth
Oct 24, 2007 at 04:57 PM

 

Ken Ashworth wrote:
>Sorry, I don’t remember the name of the story - it was a good read
>(twice).
>

OK, it just came to me, Shibumi.

Here’s some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevanian

“Trevanian” is a pen name of Dr. Rodney William Whitaker

also wrote The Eiger Sanction.

http://www.trevanian.com/books/shibumi.htm

Looks like it going to be a movie:

http://www.hollywood.com/movie/Shibumi/375360

 

 


Posted by Manfred
Oct 25, 2007 at 02:29 PM

 

Cassius wrote: “in fact no software is essential for writing good stuff. Shakespeare did it without…”

How true, but ... software (or paper, or a notebook, or whatever) can amplify whatever ability someone may or may not have. Shakespeare may not have had software, but he had in all probability a commonplace book (or a much better memory than anyone I am acquainted with). A note-taking application is, at least as far as I am concerned, a form of external memory very much like any system that allows you to store information on paper (like a notebook or card file). It’s just more capable than a mere paper-based system.

“Simplicity” is not so simple a notion. We might think that paper, notebook, and pen or pencil or “simple,” for instance, but they are not. They constitute a highly complex system that presupposes all kinds of manufacturing capabilities and social developments. (If you want to see how complex simple things we rely on every day, you may want to read Petroski, Henri (1999) The Pencil. A History of Design and Circumstance. New York: Alfred Knopf, for instance.

The same seems to be true of software, where, to be sure, we are just at the beginning of the process that with paper took hundreds of years to arrive at “simplicity.”

Furthermore, whether a piece of software is “simple,” depends on what you want to do with it. Simplicity in an application for ordering your thoughts on a particular topic without any view to long-term storage is different from the kind of simplicity needed by an application meant to hold the notes for the next twenty years or more.

Thirdly, simplicity also has to do with how and whether you can get the information into an application, and - more importantly - how you get it out again. Text still seems to be the best to me (and therefore HTML and some other markup that is basically text appeals to me.)

Stephen Zeoli’s list is a good starting point for the discussion for a discussion about simplicity in note-taking or outlining applications.

In any case, I also agree that everyone has to make her/his own choice, and in starting a thread on ConnectedText, I only wanted to make people aware of an alternative that they MIGHT find useful. Far be it from me to say that there is only one way towards salvation in note-taking (or that anyone contributing to this forum needs salvation).
Manfred

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Oct 25, 2007 at 02:53 PM

 

Manfred wrote:
>Far be it from me to say that there is only one way towards salvation in
>note-taking (or that anyone contributing to this forum needs salvation).

Actually, as I’m bogged down in the quagmire of competing PIMs that have found their way on to my computers, I feel great need for salvation sometimes!

But seriously, I greatly appreciate all the helpful advice and insights that the people on this forum take the time to share. Thank you!

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Manfred
Oct 25, 2007 at 03:09 PM

 

I just came across this video, which is uncannily relevant:

http://www.43folders.com/2007/10/22/making-friends-paper

Manfred

 


Posted by Cassius
Oct 25, 2007 at 04:31 PM

 

Speaking of pen/pencil and paper, let us not forget scissors and tape/paste.  Back in IBM Selectric days, I can recall doing a lot of that.  (Also the hell of endless corrections when one had an incompetent typist.)  One-pane outliners (plus cut/paste) have eliminated that for me.

-c

 


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