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Posted by NW
Feb 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM
I picked up swift pro v8 on bits and used it for quite while. I find I start out enthusiastically with tree based programmes, but as the tree gets bigger and it requires more effort to file items away correctly, I eventually give up on them. Swift has some nice features, such as the ability to drag emails across to create tasks or to store for reference.
The new features in v9 would be nice to have, but the upgrade price from v8 to v9 of $50 seems excessive. Although, not surprising as the cost is high anyway. For example, spell checking is withheld from the pro version and reserved for the ultimate version which is $150! Also, major versions are released quite frequently- seems like once a year, so if you want to keep current with bug fixes etc, you need to think about ongoing costs.
I guess like most app developers these days, jiri has his eyes on a subscription based web service which will be necessary to sync the desktop versions with the online version and iOS/android versions. Like many other developers, eg PersonalBrain, the plan seems to be to get desktop users to payout big money for minimal changes to desktop versions dressed up as major releases, in order to fund ios/android development.
Posted by 22111
Feb 15, 2014 at 02:36 PM
NW, I thank you very kindly for your confirming what I’ve said before, Jiri’s overpricing his offerings (which is his legitimate choice), AND we’re driven into subscription models which ain’t in our, the users’ interest.
This being said, I perfectly understand that some developers want to make “real money” out of their offerings, not only get handouts; IS (Info Select) is a prime example for that stance, which I acknowledge wholeheartedly. But then, of course, those devlopers should “deliver”, and the question remains if Juri “delivers”, speaking from the pov of a heavy-duty “IMS user”, i.e. some user who tries to put thousands and thousands of info items into his main product, and I fear that’s not the case; btw, his info M product, TreeWhatever, does NOT seem to be a “sub-group”, functionality-wise, of his main product, but certainly a spin-off of it, but I want to express, it has probably been a false perception of mine to suppose that, anyway, his main product was able to do everything that his (sub-standard) outlining spin-off delivers, “and more”; technically, his main product “should” be able to be “a heavy-duty regular 2-pane outliner with clones”, but in fact, I don’t know if this is wishful thinking of mine.
Let’s face it, in today’s (perverted) world (cf. my writings yesterday on “withholding” programmers’ “man hours” within endless adaptation work, instead of paying them for “real” work, i.e. finding better solutions to today’s tasks, sw-wise), Jiri’s not among those who don’t see reality, but belongs to the select group of developers-who-try-to-adapt-to-things-as-they-currently-are, which is a positive point. But of course, his core product should deliver, just adopting inferior products to several platforms certainly could not be a valid answer to today’s IMS sw probs.
Hence my question how Jiri’s core product delivers if you try to manage let’s say 20,000 items with it - let alone my about 150,000…
Posted by Franz Grieser
Feb 15, 2014 at 03:33 PM
You’re joking, 22111. Are you?
>Hence my question how Jiri’s core product delivers if you try to manage
>let’s say 20,000 items with it - let alone my about 150,000…
We’re talking about a to-do list. Do you plan to collect a life’s to-dos in one file?
Posted by tightbeam
Feb 15, 2014 at 08:15 PM
By “items” he might mean posts to OutlinerSoftware.
Posted by Hilary
Feb 16, 2014 at 12:06 AM
About ‘overpriced’ - well, yes, the price gives pause for thought. But maybe it’s more accurate to say ‘priced enough to keep the software in development’? The alternative seems to be to have the developer despair of making a living and abandon development. (I once suggested to the developer of UR that he pre-sell a substantial upgrade with much-requested features like tagging and a full calendar. I reckon he still has - or had - a sufficiently enthusiastic user-base who’d support that: there were some of us who bought the latest upgrade just as a gesture of support, after all. He wasn’t remotely interested in the idea.)
I haven’t tried STDL with a very large database. I do use it just as a to-do list and UR for thinking and journalling, though if STDL ever gained the ability to have one item with several parents, that might change. Maybe I should ask for that…