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Posted by john oconnor
Oct 12, 2007 at 12:43 AM

 

In the official Evernote forums a poster writes: “At the creativity level, EverNote has the Category Intersection Panel, which allows me to mine my data to discover relationships and associations between seemingly unrelated categories of my EverNote notes. One aspect of creativity is the discovery of relationships not previously known, and EverNote excels at helping me find relationships and associations between different categories of my notes that I never suspected existed.”
So, two questions, are there other software tools that can aid in Knowledge discovery. Second, given this knowledge-discovery capability why would you use Onenote instead of Evernote.

Thank you

John OConnor

 


Posted by Wes Perdue
Oct 12, 2007 at 06:37 PM

 

john oconnor wrote:

> are there other software tools that can aid in Knowledge discovery.

John,

I’ve read of such serendipity occurring within a number of different applications.  One way I believe it can happen is any time a user tags a large amount of data and then browses or queries based on those tags.  I believe I’ve read about it in InfoHandler and within Zoot.  I believe Manfred has mentioned it a few times over the years in regards to ConnectedText.  I’ve seen it happen myself in WikidPad.

Someone recently mentioned recently on this forum a “critical mass” of structured data and serendipity showing new relations; unfortunately, I don’t remember who it was, the context, or the application.

I’m sure others here can give more specific examples of such beneficial data structures and applications.

Regards,
Wes

 


Posted by Manfred
Oct 12, 2007 at 10:34 PM

 

There is an article by Steven Berlin Johnson that describes this phenomenon as encountered in Devonthink:

ttp://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/000230.html

Manfred

But anytime you collect a sufficiently large amount of notes in a sufficiently good note-keeping application you should be able to experience it once in a while. (But it takes dedication and consistency in keeping notes in one application or one place.)

Manfred

P.S.: ConnectedText has such a category filter (or better a filter that allows several critera, including two or more categories).

 


Posted by Manfred
Oct 12, 2007 at 10:35 PM

 

There is an article by Steven Berlin Johnson that describes this phenomenon as encountered in Devonthink:

http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/000230.html

But anytime you collect a sufficiently large amount of notes in a sufficiently good note-keeping application you should be able to experience it once in a while. (But it takes dedication and consistency in keeping notes in one application or one place.)

Manfred

P.S.: ConnectedText has such a category filter (or better a filter that allows several critera, including two or more categories).

 


Posted by Stephen R. Diamond
Oct 14, 2007 at 06:48 PM

 

I see EverNote and OneNote as designed for different stages in research process. Evernote builds a personal database; it is a kind of archiving tool. OneNote creates a space where information can be combined, analyzed, and elaborated for current projects.Microsoft has said that OneNote is not an archival tool, although MS doesn’t place a lot of emphasis on this caveat, because that is the way many of their customers in fact (mis)use it.

I think of these instruments as enhancements for different parts of memory: pure outliners/(especially) mind mappers as enhancing short term memory; OneNote as enhancing working memory, broadly conceived (short term memory plus what it activates in long-term memory);and archival databases such as Ultra-Recall and Evernote as enhancing long term memory.

I am in process of switching from UltraRecall to Evernote as my archival tool, or at least testing the practicability. I see Evernote and UltraRecall as direct competitors. Either can co-exist with OneNote.

Each should lend itself to its own form of serendipity, but the EverNote approach based on overlapping categories is most useful with a large database, that is, an archival tool. As to which programs also have a feature resembling EverNote’s category overlap, the following come to mind: Idea!; Personal Knowbase, and Literary Machine. I have never used the last, but it makes strong claims of special abilities in this regard.

srd

john oconnor wrote:
>In the official Evernote forums a poster writes: “At the creativity level, EverNote
>has the Category Intersection Panel, which allows me to mine my data to discover
>relationships and associations between seemingly unrelated categories of my
>EverNote notes. One aspect of creativity is the discovery of relationships not
>previously known, and EverNote excels at helping me find relationships and
>associations between different categories of my notes that I never suspected
>existed.”
>So, two questions, are there other software tools that can aid in
>Knowledge discovery. Second, given this knowledge-discovery capability why would
>you use Onenote instead of Evernote.
> >Thank you
> >John OConnor

 


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