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Posted by jimspoon
Jan 23, 2013 at 06:01 AM

 

>I’m thinking of an alternative to Scrivener for Window’s “Split with
>selection as title (Ctrl+Shift+K).

So, you highlight some text, and Scrivener splits the text just before the highlight, and assigns the selected text as a title for the text following the split?  Just want to make sure I understand.

In answer to your question, you know that I am going to recommend Ecco!  haha.  It’s great for moving text around, and you could export tab delimited text where it needs to go.  But it’s not dual pane (in the sense of item titles in a tree pane, and item text in another pane).

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Jan 23, 2013 at 09:18 AM

 

jimspoon wrote:
>I’m thinking of an alternative to Scrivener for Window’s “Split with
>>selection as title (Ctrl+Shift+K).
> >So, you highlight some text, and Scrivener splits the text just before
>the highlight, and assigns the selected text as a title for the text
>following the split?  Just want to make sure I understand.

Yes. It’s a very handy feature. O4D can also do it but in single pane only, so it’s not as good for rearranging bits of text.

Thanks for the Ecco suggestion. Does Ecco have a similar command?

 


Posted by jimspoon
Jan 23, 2013 at 06:41 PM

 

Dr Andus wrote:
jimspoon wrote:

>Yes. It’s a very handy feature. O4D can also do it but in single pane
>only, so it’s not as good for rearranging bits of text.
> >Thanks for the Ecco suggestion. Does Ecco have a similar command?

Sure, everything you need is on the Item menu.  But I always use keystroke commands - Ctrl+Shift+S to split, Ctrl+S-J to join, alt-arrow keys to move items.  Items don’t have titles in Ecco, but of course you could use as an outline item as a title.  The reason I recommend Ecco for moving text around is its very quick - I’m sure Brainstorm is too.

When you’re read to export back to another program, you can use File / Database / Export / Outline Only (tab indented).

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Feb 5, 2013 at 12:17 PM

 

I’m still looking for a lightweight two-pane outliner for storage and quick organisation of textual fragments. The main criteria are that it is easy to add a new item (ideally single keystroke, such as “insert” or one mouse-click), and easy to indent/outdent, move up/down. Rich text formatting not essential. But it would be nice if the pasted text would be rendered in some consistent default font I can set up, so I don’t have to change it after each paste.

I’ve tried BrainStorm and ECCO, and they’re both great for what they do, but for my purposes it’s necessary to have the two-pane structure, to have a list in one pane (that I can quickly scan visually), and a couple of paragraphs in the right pane.

Being able to split a text into multiple items (such as Scrivener’s (Ctrl+Shift+K))would be a bonus, but not essential.

Scrivener for Windows would be perfect if it wasn’t such a behemoth. It’s just too sluggish for me. So it’s a replacement for Scriveners.

So far I tried RightNote and NoteCase Pro. RightNote would be almost right but it frustrates me that it’s almost impossible to rename a note item, when that should be the simplest thing in the world. In NoteCase Pro it bugs me that it changes my paste into its own default font, rather than the one I chose.

Any more suggestions?

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Feb 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

 

To put it another way, what’s the simplest, lightest, nimblest two-pane outliner/notes organiser out there?

I’m specifically talking about one that has got a tree structure (as opposed to tags only, like CintaNotes). I want to be able to position the notes within the notes hierarchy manually.

An additional feature that would be nice would be the ability to distinguish between notes titles by colour or using icons.

 


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