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Posted by Franz Grieser
Oct 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM

 

Dottore (in spe).

I am absolutely with Alex. I do not see a reason (for you) to switch. You have no Windows tablet, nor a touch-enabled screen. So: What would a switch bring to you? I haven’t heard of an outliner or text processing software that is available only on Windows 8.

CRIMPing only applies to outlining, info storage and writing software (or hardware) not to operating systems ;-)

Just my 5ct, Franz

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

 

Franz Grieser wrote:
>CRIMPing only applies to outlining, info storage and writing
>software (or hardware) not to operating systems ;-)

Franz - thanks for saving me from myself (and Steve Ballmer :)

 


Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Oct 27, 2012 at 06:37 PM

 

Jon, thanks for the link to the NY Times article. It helped to convince me that I need to look for an alternative to Windows 8, as I have no intention to have to fight (once again) with my OS in order to be able to acceptably do tasks that I have now streamlined to a significant extent. I have done it 2-3 times in the past, from MS DOS to Windows 95 (I skipped Windows 3.1 which I found completely useless), then to Windows XP, and more recently to Windows 7. I managed to cheat my way through the last couple of transitions by maintaining the ‘classic’ Windows look and disabling all the (time- and resource-wasting) eye candy.

I intend to keep Windows 7 at least till the end of their support life (half of our office machines are still happily running Windows XP) but it seems clear to me that Microsoft development of its tools goes hand in hand with its obligating users to adapt to new GUIs—possibly quite intuitive for new users, but considerably disrupting to existing ones- within its constant pursuit of novelty. Think MS Office 2003 toolbars to 2007 ribbon etc.

It doesn’t have to be this way. The option could be there to work with a ‘classic’ look for those who want it. But then one probably wouldn’t feel the need to buy new hardware, would they?

On the occasion of the Windows 8 launch I revisited the world of Linux distributions and was very pleasantly surprised. I installed two different modern distributions (OpenSUSE and Voyager, based on XUbuntu) on two notebooks—a significantly older one and a completely new one- and both are working like charm. Installation was more streamlined than Windows, all hardware was identified including special keys, additional programs were installed with no issues etc.

The availability of different Linux distributions can be daunting, but it goes hand in hand with the versatility of the system: you can find distributions with the latest Linux kernel that can take advantage of the most recent hardware, and others than can run with the same kernel on 386s with 64 Mb RAM. And you can have a minimal desktop or the latest in animation effects if you want them.

The aim of my post isn’t so much to promote Linux (though I feel fine doing it) but rather to support Franz’s point: I’m a happy CRIMPer but, as far as the OS is concerned, I just want it to keep out of the way.

 


Posted by Cassius
Oct 27, 2012 at 11:24 PM

 

I still run XPSP3.  WHy?

1.  I had a free Vista offer, but by the time the discs arrived, Vista had had so much bad publicity, that there was no way I’d install it.
2.  XP is compatible with GoBack, which has saved my hide many times.  Norton chose not to update GoBack to run on newer versions of Windows.
3.  Microsoft claims that newer versions of Windows will run older software using its compatibility mode.  FALSE!
4.  I almost wish I still was running Win 2000, so I could run ZipMagic.*  The current owner of ZM could not get it to run properly with XP.  Also running GrandView in 2000 was a breeze.  Not so with XP.
5.  New Nikon SLR cameras can use almost every Nikon camera lens ever made.  Same with Pentax.  Why does Microsoft force people to upgrade their apps or say goodbye to beloved ones?

*ZipMagic made zipped folders look and work EXACTLY like ordinary folders.  No extracting or re-zipping needed.  I really miss it.

 


Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 27, 2012 at 11:34 PM

 

Cassius wrote:
>*ZipMagic made zipped folders look and work EXACTLY like
>ordinary folders.  No extracting or re-zipping needed.  I really miss it.

Note sure if it’s exactly the same functionality but DOpus can do something like that:
http://www.gpsoft.com.au/help/opus9/WordDocuments/zipfiles.htm

 


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