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Posted by razorboy
Aug 28, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Slartibartfarst wrote:
>As a result of responding to this
>discussion that you started, I have reinstalled and tested is9 (called “2007”), and
>is10 (the latest version is v10.00.87).
>I put them both into my trial directory,
>running .concurrently with is8 (which was already installed).
>I am currently
>putting is10 through its hoops, and so far it is looking quite good, though it kept
>crashing when I tried to install it with my old .wd2 is8 database files, so I figured out
>how to install it first and THEN convert the .wd2 files. It’s a bit tedious that way, but
>as a workaround it seems to be OK.
>
>I had not trialled this version of is10 before, and I
>must say it looks quite good! If it enables me to easily save my browser .html pages (I
>currently have these in a Scrapbook library), then I might consider using it for that,
>though it seems expensive so I am hoping I shall find more befits than just that.
>Otherwise I will not be able to easily justify the outlay. I am already doing what data
>management/manipulation I want with OneNote and separate tools and FREE Firefox
>browser add-ons. At worst, is10 may not offer much extra, but at best, it could offer a
>degree of increased consolidation of functionality - which is always a good thing
>IMHO.
>
>I would recommend you download is10 free of charge as a trial, and that will
>apparently give you 60 runs (that is what it states) before the trial licence expires.
>You should be able to get some idea of how useful it is from that.
>WARNING: Though the
>is8 and is9 Help files were self-contained and very well-documented, there is
>apparently only an online Help facility for is10. I have tried using it and it
>unfortunately seems like rubbish. I presume that they are still writing a proper one!
>It badly needs one anyway - and especially for the price they are asking.
>
>You can
>download the various versions of “is” from here:
>http://www.miclog.com/download/index.htm
Thanks for all your work, Slartibartfarst. I will do the IS 10 trial, although I’m not sure what a “run” is. (Open and close the programme?) I qualify for the upgrade price, and it is worth that much $$$ to me if it works for me as well as the ancient version did. Perhaps there is some way to minimize the effect of the ribbon, although it does not sound promising in that regard.
I emailed support about the forum, copying your post about Jim Lewis taking over the forum, and I suggested that he must have turned the thing over to someone else. I have had no response. I don’t think I’ll get one. BTW, their street address is an industrial mall with several businesses in it, none of which is Micro Logic, it seems. Of course, half the software companies in the world exist only on someone’s desktop computer, with employees working from home and having four such jobs each. As well, the info about the address could be wrong.
Posted by Wolfgang
Aug 29, 2012 at 09:01 PM
I have used Tornado in the early 90s, and bought every upgrade of Infoselect since. When vista was foisted on us, I went over to apple and bought Macintoshes, lots of Macintoshes. In the Apple universe I found Devonthink which is as good or better than Infoselect 8. Later versions of infoselect just got too cludgey like a giant Swish army knife with 10000000000 attachements and it also had the worlds worst email. I still could not figure out why Infoselect wanted to put email inside their programme when there Outlook or Mozilla. Anyhow, at some stage I realised that whereas Microsoft was the evil empire, Apple was the evile Galactic overlord from hell. You even had to have apple hardware to run their OP and apps. (I know there are hackintoshes but blah). So when mountain Lion came out and being in apple was like being in Alkatraz but without the freedom I went back to Microsoft and bought computers for me and my neurogastroentrology labs, lots and lots of PCs. I discovered something nice, Windows 7 was just as good as Leopard or Lion but more open and the world felt a little less constrained. But then I had to move stuff from Devonthink into Infoselect 10. Infoselect (after 8) and with its insane email is only for the most determined masochists.
So, I looked around for a program that lets me do what Devonthink does, including indexing external files without importing them yet they can be searched for and edited. Also it had to talk in OPML since there are few outliner intelligent (that means opml and why most windows (single or more paned) outliners aren’t)) programmes in windows. Also it had to be able to edit its own intenal files (as well as the external linked files) in a text editor of my choice. I chose ms word 2010 because, like most professionals I dictate my content and dragon naturally speaking 12 works beautifully with word. The whole shebang (word, dragon anything else) is run from this outliner. As well I needed to index thousands (8k or so) of pubmed indexed pdf and they should not be imported but searchable from inside the outliner database. So this programme was better than Devonthink on the mac and better than anything else in the windows world. I love it and use it every day.
Posted by Franz Grieser
Aug 29, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Ahm, Wolfgang.
Wolfgang wrote:
>So, I looked around for a program that lets me do what Devonthink does,
>including ...
>... So this
>programme was better than Devonthink on the mac and better than anything else in the
>windows world. I love it and use it every day.
And the winner is?
What program are you talking about? Infoselect 10? Word 2010? Or ...?
Beste Grüße, Franz
Posted by Slartibartfarst
Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Yes Wolfgang, for goodness’ sake do tell us. The suspense is killing me.
Posted by Wolfgang
Aug 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM
I am sorry, I thought I mentioned it. I have before on this forum. It is, of course Ultra Recall. I had downloaded it many times over the years even before I went Apple and it somehow seemed too complicated and never clicked. The in desperation with Infoselect having committed hari curry (or whatever) I googled and looked and ruminated and downloaded and paid for it. I had several goes at it and it still didn’t click but I was desperate and the ability to index files actually worked. I tried that wiki thingy that is so highly reviewed here but I couldn’t find a way to index external files and it never clicked either. The I had to write an NIH grant application and I used Ultra Recall in only the simplest mode. And then, biff, if clicked and now I use it all the time. I also play with and use OneNote but somehow it doesn’t do it for me totally (poor integration with ms word no indexing .... but it is very pretty). Sometimes Ultra R is slow to copy web pages to itself but anyway I mainly use it for text. I use attributes to keep endnote reference as well for text snippets. If I copy from pdf to make a text snippit the text can be edited in word (if UR is set up to do it - info in discussions on forums) and I use an ms word addin found on http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/index.html at
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.html this person is amazing and with lots of word addins and templates. Then after editing in word it saves back to UR and the text is pretty and the hard returns from the pdf are gone. Overall despite occasional slowness, I rate UR 10/10 and it can handle ginormous databases. I bought the latest version with runs on win 8 but I think I will wait a bit before going to 8.
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