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Posted by Matty
Jul 18, 2007 at 05:57 PM

 

Tom,

I’m curious what that link was… didn’t show up for me.

best,

matt

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jul 18, 2007 at 06:37 PM

 

http://www.mauiwriters.com/

Matty wrote:
>Tom,
> >I’m curious what that link was… didn’t show up for me.
> >best,
> >matt

 


Posted by Tom Colvin
Jul 18, 2007 at 07:10 PM

 

Matt, Stephen picked up the link for you [thanks by the way].  I’m still learning the conventions of this forum and how to type in information.

Anyway, I’m intrigued that you are a working historian.  Are there any good sites online that seriously deal with techniques for writing history—not just the academic requirements, but also the tools available and the challenge of writing history that comes alive while maintaining scholarly rigor?

After reading your posts in this thread, I’ve download WhizFolders and will install it later today.  By the way, BIBLIOSCAPE’s note-taking facility offers a three-pane view:  tree-hierachy on the left, note title in upper right and note itself on lower right pane—and one can link this all directly to the data about the reference itself.  Neat…

And have you tried out Zotero, the Firefox plug-in biblio manager?

Tom

 


Posted by Matty
Jul 18, 2007 at 07:46 PM

 

Hi Tom,

>Anyway, I’m intrigued
>that you are a working historian.  Are there any good sites online that seriously deal
>with techniques for writing history—not just the academic requirements, but also
>the tools available and the challenge of writing history that comes alive while
>maintaining scholarly rigor?

Not that I know of.
> >After reading your posts in this thread, I’ve
>download WhizFolders and will install it later today.  By the way, BIBLIOSCAPE’s
>note-taking facility offers a three-pane view:  tree-hierachy on the left, note
>title in upper right and note itself on lower right pane—and one can link this all
>directly to the data about the reference itself.  Neat…

Yes, biblioscapes note module has a lot of potential.  comparing it to whizfolder: It is not nearly as easy to get information in and out, back and forth, between BS and other programs, specifically ms word.  Whizfolders allows for incredibly easy organization of notes… drag and drop within one outline or between outlines, drag and drop from WF to MS word and from MS Word, it does not automatically link to references, but, like I said, using temporary references from biblioscape to mark my notes works pretty well.  As a historian, the thing that I cannot have happen is to have the perfect quote end up in my notes without reference for it.  At that point it becomes as good as useless to me.
> >And have you tried out
>Zotero, the Firefox plug-in biblio manager?

Yes, I have it installed.  I think it is very good, and the price is certainly right!  So far, it does not have a powerful interface with MS Word for formatting citations, but they are working on this.  This program is extremely well conceived, and, it would seem, well funded.  Definitely one to keep an eye on.

Matt

 


Posted by Tom Colvin
Jul 18, 2007 at 09:14 PM

 

Matt,

I’ve looked all over for sites to help historians be more productive, but have found nothing.  And I haven’t even found more than 1-2 articles online about the techniques of “writing history,” other than the mundane directions for college students who must write “papers.”  Do any of the historical associations—AHA or OAS, for example—ever include sessions in their conferences about writing technique and strategies?

You’ve confirmed my decision to install WhizFolders tonight.  Maybe I’ll begin to get a better handle on 4 years of research!  And I only installed Zotero last week, so much to learn there.

Tom

 


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