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Posted by Dr Andus
Nov 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

 

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>Interesting. I recall reading some years ago at the UR forum,
>somebody saying that it is conceptually wrong for any item except folders to have
>children. So in the case of Memomaster it may indeed be a conscious choice.

Scrivener makes a big deal out of the fact that folders can be converted to documents and vice versa and that both can contain children. So there seem to be some advantages for such flexibility (although I kind of forgot now what the difference is between a folder and a document in Scrivener).

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Nov 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM

 

There may be good reasons to allow only folders to have children in some applications, but any application that does so is definitely NOT an outliner. I personally prefer being able to make notes with sub notes. When you are limited to using folders to create hierarchy it inhibits the ability to move items around, to play with the organization.

As far as I can tell, the only difference between a folder and a document in Scrivener is the icon. I think it is really just a conceptual idea.

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Pavi
Dec 1, 2011 at 09:25 AM

 

Hi,

This was absolutely a conscious decision on the part of the makers of MemoMaster. I actually emailed them about this, and they stated as much. The reason, as they explained, is that a large part of MM’s functionality is to export entire trees as directories/files, with the structure preserved. They mentioned that a lot of customers use MM this way, and it is important to remember that they have a lot of business customers who want multi-user access to the db. The way around this would be to have an extra document file called “Nodename_header” for text of the main folder.

I personally strongly prefer the ability to have children from a text node, since often you don’t know that a node will require children until well into the future. UltraRecall gives you the flexibility to use folders either with or without text, and in the latter case you could also put information about that node in the “Notes” window.

Memomaster was very intriguing to me, especially due to the PDF export, which puts together a professional document with automatically generated linked table of contents. Outlook support is not well handled (MM tasks are sent to Outlook as icons, without text visible), and the tables/forms were not to my liking. Hence, my choice of UltraRecall. This is one to watch for the future, though.

Best, /Pavi


Alexander Deliyannis wrote:

>Interesting. I recall reading some years ago at the UR forum,
>somebody saying that it is conceptually wrong for any item except folders to have
>children. So in the case of Memomaster it may indeed be a conscious choice.

 


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