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Posted by Graham Rhind
Apr 20, 2007 at 02:24 PM

 

Thanks for the UR tips Jan.  I do use UR because I have been able to replace 3 other programs with it and it gives me a complete customer view in one place.  I hope it gets better, and I hope Kinook does something about the poor documentation and communication :-)

 


Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Apr 20, 2007 at 04:30 PM

 

Graham Rhind wrote:
>Thanks for the UR tips Jan.  I do use UR because I have been able to replace 3 other
>programs with it and it gives me a complete customer view in one place.  I hope it gets
>better, and I hope Kinook does something about the poor documentation and
>communication :-) 

Yup. Here’s a cc of my post to the support address

(1) Can I assume that recurring reminder can be set with begin date +
recurring span only, i.e. no reminder?

(2) What are the rules for creating additional recurring values in
recurring attribute properties, i.e. Every other Tue or Mon and Wed.

(3) what’s the interplay between reminder 4 days or recurring Tue
(starting from today)?

Thank you.

_____________
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
w2k-sp4

PS: May I humbly suggest that a lack of communication from Kinook on
the forum makes a lot of people nervous about the product. Call it
hand holding or public relations or what have you. IMO, it is part &
parcel with of a successful business even in a busy environment.

 

 


Posted by quant
Apr 20, 2007 at 05:45 PM

 

Graham Rhind wrote:
>With UR, to set up a task I need to highlight the task
>folder, Insert and then add the task.  Not a problem as such.  But to see what has to be done
>at a glance, I have to open favourites and choose a pre-saved search (which can be done
>with a keystroke), but then I have to correct the date in the search to be for today, run

set in the search dates to be stored relatively!
And if you want one click to see what has to be done (without opening favorites and then choosing a pre-saved search and changing it to today), why dont you have your favorites toolbar shown, place the search in the toolbar, so that ONE click on the toolbar button shows you straight away what has to be done today!

>the search and then check the results.  When a task is done, I have to change a property in
>the task (e.g. completed -> 100%) and then re-run the search to remove the completed
>task from the overview.

how else would you like to do it? You can delete it and then you dont need to re-run the search, it refreshes
 
> >Perhaps I’m not doing it right, but UR’s flexibility just
>makes it too cumbersome for something that should be simple ...

yes, the flexibility is the point, there are hundreds ways how certain thing can be done. If I dont like how tasks are managed, I change it MY way. OK, there will be a click here and click there ... but that’s it! I’m not constrained by how certain programmer thinks I should manage my tasks, or my time ...

 


Posted by Ken Ashworth
Apr 20, 2007 at 07:40 PM

 

Graham Rhind wrote:
>Thanks for the UR tips Jan.  I do use UR because I have been able to replace 3 other
>programs with it and it gives me a complete customer view in one place.  I hope it gets
>better, and I hope Kinook does something about the poor documentation and
>communication :-)

Jan Rifkinson wrote:
>PS: May I humbly suggest that a lack of communication from Kinook on
>the forum makes a lot of people nervous about the product. Call it
>hand holding or public relations or what have you. IMO, it is part
>& parcel with of a successful business even in a busy environment.


Although I agree that the UR Manual leaves a lot to be desired - it’s shortcomings are fairly common, good at explaining what the program will do but lacking in examples of why and how - this is fairly common in the software world. Actually, UR’s manual is better than most.

I have been impressed with the responsiveness of Kinook (Kevin and Kyle) via the support-email and have generally gotten a response within 24-hours, both during the v.3 beta and beyond (and some of my emails have been on the long side).

I am also surprised by the level of response by Kinook personal on the message board. Granted they do not respond it each message, but the Forum is more about users-helping-users and they do jump in to correct our mistakes and add insight.

Actaully, I’ve learned more from the user contributions and am thankful for the discussions. Even if the topics are not on an area of the program that I am currently working thru, I know that those discussions will be there when I do need to begin using other parts of the program.

Maybe I’m so used to having to figure things out for myself - due to poor docs, poor or nonexistent forums - that I’m to the point where anything is better than nothing.

Later,
KenA

 


Posted by JJ
Apr 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM

 

Here is one that I use & nobody really talks about…. PlanPlus for Outlook from Franklin-Covey.
Here is a link:
http://shopping.franklincovey.com/shopping/catalog/productsoftware.jsp?id=prod289&sc=0605-planplus_outlook_spotlight&c=0605-planplus_outlook_spotlight&product=PlanPlusforMicrosoftOutlook

They do a very nice job of integrating INTO (not with) Outlook.

Plus they have figured out hope to nest tasks within Outlook.

You can download a demo version (90+mb!)

It is a little slow, but the functionality makes it worth it.

-jj

 

 


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