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Tao a Joke?

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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Aug 7, 2010 at 04:08 AM


I am trying Tao.

Using the menu to insert a date gives me a time (which I do not want. If I did I would use insert time and date.

And the year it sets for the date is 2006.

Can anyone explain what is happening?



Posted by Hugh
Aug 7, 2010 at 10:16 AM


I have not had this issue with TAO, but it’s difficult to diagnose long-distance.

More generally, I don’t think TAO is a joke. Its user interface is definitely complex (unnecessarily so in my view), and I’ve had experience of it freezing or closing unpredictably. Perhaps these bugs are reasons why the developer created the superficially very similar NEO.

The overwhelming attraction of TAO (and I presume, NEO) is that when persisted with it provides almost all the functionality one might hope for in an advanced outliner, similar (as I understand it) to “old-school” applications such as GrandView. And currently TAO and NEO are the only outliners that I know of on the Mac that do.

(And that’s the great frustration with OmniOutliner - the hope before Omni became distracted by other things was that they would match the TAO/NEO functionality, but in a nice friendly, unbuggy UI.)


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM


As I mentioned in the earlier post, I haven’t really warmed up to TAO—because of the convoluted user interface—so I can’t comment on your issues. What impressed me about TAO is the way it handles inline text, which is far superior, I think, than OmniOutliner (the only two true outliners that have this feature—Mac or PC, if my memory is serving me correctly). In OO, inline text looks and feels like its part of a separate cell. That is, it feels separate from its subject heading; while in TAO, inline text feels part of the subject heading. Perhaps a subtle difference, but if OO had the feel of TAO with inline text, I’d be using it a lot more.



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