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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Nov 16, 2006 at 04:42 AM

 

FYI, James Fallows, the national correspondent of The Atlantic Monthly, has a column in the current issue on independent info programs. Fallows has long had an interest in information management, and perhaps more than anyone else brought Zoot to the world’s attention through various articles he’s written over the years.

When you look at the kind of articles Fallows writes—lengthy, well documented analysis of politics and public policy—you can see why he’s naturally interested in programs that help him to track sources, quotes, and notes. His article organizer template on the Zoot Yahoo group shows one way to do just that.

In the current The Atlantic article Fallows looks at EverNote, NetSnippets, Surfulator and, in less detail, ADM and, for the Mac, Devon and Tinderbox.

I noted with interest that he has visited the ADM team in China, and that he plans to write more about ADM in the future. He doesn’t note some of the recent concerns about ADM and, in fact, seems positive about the program.

Fallows is a regular contributing member of the Zoot Yahoo group.

As an aside: While I was originally interested in various third party programs for capturing web page material, my current thought is that nothing performs as well as Scrapbook for Firefox—or simply using the browsers “save as” command, and then making a link between the saved page and the info program of your choice. The second approach takes more time, but it is reliable. I use Scrapbook, as well as linking saved web pages to either MDE InfoHandler or Zoot. I have found most of the web clipping programs have some kind of blind spot—including ADM and UltraRecall. One program, an old timer in the field of info management, InfoSelect, still does perhaps the worst job of any program in terms of saving web page material.

Daly

Discuss and learn about David Allen’s Getting Things Done:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Getting_Things_Done/

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
Nov 16, 2006 at 02:01 PM

 

I have been reminded by a friend that I should always give the ADM url because the program does not come up well on the search engines. The url is I have been reminded by a friend that I should always give the url for ADM because it doesn’t show up well on the search engines. The url is adm21.net.

Daly

 


Posted by Stephen R. Diamond
Nov 17, 2006 at 07:32 AM

 

Daly de Gagne wrote:

>I noted with interest that he has visited the
>ADM team in China, and that he plans to write more about ADM in the future. He doesn’t
>note some of the recent concerns about ADM and, in fact, seems positive about the
>program.

Fallows is more capable than I would have previously believed in talking complete nonsense about software. Perhaps it comes with being a journalist, but he is far from immune to hype. I was looking at some older articles he wrote, where he said that OmniOutliner for OS X combined the best features of BrainStorm, NoteMap, Echo, and GrandView. Yeah, right. Omin isn’t _that_ feature rich; and no one, including James, mentions that OS X is painfully slow and not terribly stable, traits which considerably diminishing any application it runs.

 


Posted by Kenneth Rhee
Nov 17, 2006 at 11:58 AM

 

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
> >Fallows is more capable than I would have previously believed in talking complete
>nonsense about software. Perhaps it comes with being a journalist, but he is far from
>immune to hype. I was looking at some older articles he wrote, where he said that
>OmniOutliner for OS X combined the best features of BrainStorm, NoteMap, Echo, and
>GrandView. Yeah, right. Omin isn’t _that_ feature rich; and no one, including James,
>mentions that OS X is painfully slow and not terribly stable, traits which
>considerably diminishing any application it runs. 

I know I’m risking this being escalated into another “flaming” war, but I couldn’t stand any longer.

I would appreciate if you could post something that would be helpful to people on this board, and avoid making any snide remark about folks who might not have the opportunity to defend themselves in this forum.

Also, if I didn’t know better, I would think you would be on MS’s payroll.  Your repeated attacks on Mac is getting tiresome.  Mac is an excellent platform on its own right, and it offers certain outlining programs that have features that are currently not available in the Windows platform, Omni being one.  I don’t think I have found any Windows equivalent of Omni, DEVONthink, Tinderbox, or even Notetaker.  Although Eastgate (maker of Tinderbox) has been working on the windows version of Tinderbox for a long time.

Thanks.

Ken

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
Nov 17, 2006 at 03:46 PM

 

Stephen, I am curious about your comment re OSX—I hadn’t realized it had a problem with speed. Tha concerns me since I am thinking of getting back into the Mac world. Am I better staying with PCs only?

Daly

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
>Daly de Gagne wrote:
> >>I noted with interest that he has visited the
>>ADM team in
>China, and that he plans to write more about ADM in the future. He doesn’t
>>note some of
>the recent concerns about ADM and, in fact, seems positive about the
>>program.
> >
>Fallows is more capable than I would have previously believed in talking complete
>nonsense about software. Perhaps it comes with being a journalist, but he is far from
>immune to hype. I was looking at some older articles he wrote, where he said that
>OmniOutliner for OS X combined the best features of BrainStorm, NoteMap, Echo, and
>GrandView. Yeah, right. Omin isn’t _that_ feature rich; and no one, including James,
>mentions that OS X is painfully slow and not terribly stable, traits which
>considerably diminishing any application it runs. 

 


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