Recommendations on the "new" generation of outliners?

Posted by Tumbleweed
Dec 27, 2022 at 02:16 PM

Nooooo!! Just when I decided on Obsidian, you have reactivated my CRIMP which I thought I had been cured! Yes, Legend looks awesome. EPIM was a nearly perfect solution, and has all the latent linking, but alas was buggy with email issues. And no program can be trusted if you aren’t sure a mail has been sent.

Obsidian’s (and the rest) two-way linking doesn’t seem to be anything new, but the implementation as a markdown OS with community plugins seems really fantastic. I was investigating ConnectedText based on Dr. Andus’ recommendation back in the day, but the wiki style didn’t appeal to me as I liked strict hierarchies (with cloning, etc.). Now I realize I need to adapt somewhat to the more powerful tools and Zettenkasten benefits. I now regret not using ConnectedText which seems to still seems very feature rich despite development stopping.

Since Legend is Workflow based it seems really to be built for the todo/project management side. Seems to have email but incredibly no mention in their Help/Features page. Obsidian seems more geared toward notes with the other functionality bolted on via plugins; however, having most everything together is advantageous. Since Outlook/NeoPro are really required for stable email, I wonder if an Outlook + Obsidian + Tabbles is a good solution? I include Tabbles since it allows for organization of files/email and this is something that gets difficult in any program without robust native email handling. In this potential system, files/email would be generally just be organized for quick retrieval of important items related to a certain project, and in Obsidian any specific information/thoughts related to a given file/email could be linked. Also, trying to keep email actually organized is time consuming and distracts from core work, so letting NeoPro and Tabbles keep things handy and automatically organized by project would be ideal.

How do you all think such a system will work in practice?

Thanks!

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
I have looked at and tried most of the apps you suggest and a lot of
>other ones too (no surprise to anyone who has followed my CRIMP
>travails). An app not on your list that I suggest you take a look at is
>Legend. It is an outline, much like Workflowy or Dynalist, but with some
>powerful additional features, one of which is an integrated email
>manager.