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Favored "bucket" app - DEVONthink v. Keep-It vs. EagleFiler etc

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Posted by satis
Jul 8, 2018 at 08:20 PM

 

JakeBernsteinWA wrote:
> >After all my CRIMPing the last few days, the two new apps I’m interested
>most in are Outlinely and Notebooks. Keep-It remains an ongoing
>experiment, but perhaps (as you suggest) for a focused use or two.
>Otherwise, I remain happy with my DTPO workflow and despite the focus on
>DTTG over the last year, DTPO *is* in active development.

Davon Technologies are a vital Mac/iOS resource, and they have good products, and they update frequently. But they are SO stubborn about what they want to offer, and how, and when, and their customer support is gawdawful. The tipping point for me was a few years back: I used the app standalone and hated having that pop-out sorter stuck to the side of the screen, so I’d always turn it off in Preferences. But every time DTP updated, it would *ignore* my stated preferences and reset the sorter to launch on restart. I contacted Devon about this numerous times, for a couple of years, and they never fixed it. I got disgusted with having to remember to go into Prefs and re-set my actual preferences every time the app updated, and, added with the UI wonkiness I migrated from DPT to EagleFiler.

(And then Devon fixed that particular bug… without noting it in any of the release notes.)

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When I first encountered Outlinely I was intrigued to see a desktop clone of Workflowy, and I considered trying it. But the secretive, unrevealed dev(s)/owner of Glam Development did absolutely nothing with the app for the last year until the v. 2.7.8 update last month (mysteriously jumping from May 2017’s v 2.7.2) to merely add multilevel numbering and pdf output options.

And pricing seems off to me. When the Mac app came out in 2014 it cost $4.99 and now it’s $39.99, and the free iOS app requires a $14.99/year in-app subscription to get iCloud sync and search(!). To use it on both platforms would cost $55 the 1st year and $15/year after that. That only makes it competitive with Workflowy/Checkvist after two years, and also puts it in OmniOutliner territory, whose Mac/iOS Pro unlock and sync costs $80 total, with no additional charges.