Hugh wrote:

In contrast, I wouldn't want to try to write long-form in Tinderbox -
ever! The definitions of what Tinderbox actually is are several and
varied. I like to think of it as a sophisticated means of arranging
thoughts and ideas and establishing the relationships between them. Of
course, outliners and concept maps or mindmaps have similar purposes to
those of Tinderbox - and Tinderbox can certainly be used an outliner or
concept map, prior to writing long-form. But Tinderbox can do a lot more
than that, being versatile, nuanced and "smart", and capable of helping
to identify "emergent structure" (which sounds faintly sinister, but
isn't). Whereas Scrivener, although it too has an outliner as part of
its package, certainly does not aspire to what Tinderbox can do in that
area.

I totally agree on your characterization of Tinderbox.

As you said, Scrivener has now spread its area. With the addition of Scapple, they might actually thinking of making the Scrivener environment a full system from mapping ideas to drafting and publishing. There is certain overlap between the two systems (Scrivener+Scapple vs Tinderbox).

For me, one reason I don't find Scrivener that much attractive is mainly due to my own setup: I have to publish my work using Latex ultimately. I am not going to do all the heading, compiling stuff inside Scrivener. I do the formatting in the Latex (Texstudio). As such, sending some short drafts from Tinderbox to TexStudio has been my main workflow for a long time now.

if you are to publish in a word or similar format, I agree with you, Scrivener is definitely be very useful for formatting.

But, I find the Bookmark feature pretty attractive. I was using Tagging in combination with Smart searches in Devonthink to do a similar collection of project files. The steps in Devonthink are more extended and a bit cumbersome:

a) add project tags on the selected files
b) setup a smart search to collect the files with those tags
c) remove the tags whenever the file finished its task; function; to simply

The bookmark in Scrivener is simple drag and drop.